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4734 Views 54 Replies Latest reply: Oct 5, 2008 10:33 AM by sohrob76
Currently Being ModeratedApr 10, 2008 8:57 AM (in response to blamelewis)I would like to add my two cents to this discussion. I agree with all the responders that iCal Leopard is very poor software. All of the issues are valid and need to be improved. However, I am able to work around them with some work, except one not mentioned here. That is AM or PM is time setting.
Like many other here I work in the monthly mode. When I start a new event or edit an old one I usually have to set the time. In the edit pane it's impossible to determine if the time is AM or PM. You must click done to see the display in the calendar and then go back to edit to correct. The only way to correct is to use the up/down arrows and then click done to see if you have the correct information. Back to edit if not.
This has already caused me problems with incorrect settings with the alarms going off twelve hours late.Mac Pro Early 2008, Mac OS X (10.5.2)
Currently Being ModeratedApr 10, 2008 12:19 PM (in response to mizraith)when I updated my OS to leopard, a red weird looking sort-of ballon alike shape with a line that crosses the courent week in the middle of the afternoon apeared in the "week" screen.
What the **** is that and how do i desable it? I can't manage to find any reference to that, and it seems impossible to click on it!
At first i ignored that, but after 6 weeks it is really starting to anoy me!
Does anyone has any idea what the **** am i talking about?
Thanks!MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.2), Its beautiful!
Currently Being ModeratedApr 10, 2008 2:04 PM (in response to raflalo)After reading your post, I went to the week in iCAL. I normally never use the week calendar so it was a first for me. There was a little red balloon off to the right that appeared to me to be a time marker. I went to the day calendar and it disappeared and did not come back when I reversed course. Tried three times to go to week and make it appear, but it never appeared again. I will try again tomorrow.iMAc G4, Mac OS X (10.4.8), 512 mb memory, built-in ethernet local network, with powerbook, printer and tower G4
Currently Being ModeratedApr 10, 2008 2:12 PM (in response to raflalo)This indicator is simply to mark what the current time is. It advances every minute. The line gives some context for your appointments in relation to what the current time is. I don't think there is a way to disable it. Hopefully knowing what it is will make it useful or at least less irksome.
DanielMacbook Pro 2.33Ghz, Mac OS X (10.5.2)
Currently Being ModeratedApr 11, 2008 12:08 PM (in response to wchlm)I don't understand this "No - don't bring the drawer back" from some
people here. What's wrong with making it available AS AN OPTION?Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.11), 5G mem, 2T disk, Logitech G5 mouse
Currently Being ModeratedApr 14, 2008 4:54 AM (in response to blamelewis)And I thought I was the ony one who was going ABSOLUTELY INSANE trying to use Leopard's iCal after they took away the event drawer!!!
It's a horrible, crippled, almost useless piece of software now. How anyone can use it and not understand this is beyond my comprehension. The finger acrobatics required to simply add a meaningful event or edit one are asinine.Powerbook & powermac, Mac OS X (10.4.4)
Currently Being ModeratedApr 23, 2008 12:46 AM (in response to blamelewis)just bringing that to the top again and hoping for a fix with a at least drawer-like functionality upgrade hopefully soon... still on Tiger and waiting for that fix - otherwise I just can´t switch!MacBook Pro 15" 2.4, Mac OS X (10.4.11)
Currently Being ModeratedApr 28, 2008 11:05 AM (in response to blamelewis)Yup, me too. Very disappointed with my "upgrade" to Leopard and all the secondary upgrades. iCal is far less user-friendly and causing problems
• I miss the simple info pane
• I miss the ability to use the scroll wheel to advance dates and times in data entry boxes (that used to be a great feature)
• I cant get events created on my iPhone to sync via iTunes
By the way, how do I give feedback to Apple?
Message was edited by: amathieG5, Mac OS X (10.5.2), iCal 3.0.2
Currently Being ModeratedApr 28, 2008 3:04 PM (in response to glenn_uk)glenn_uk wrote: "making it available AS AN OPTION?"
That is the true and hidden problem with Apple's mantra of "It just works".
Well it just works if you are happy with how Apple's programers decided it should work. It is very frustrating that there are very limited ways of configuring programs such as iCal to work how YOU need them to work. This upgrade should have kept ALL of the functions of previous versions, especially the inspector (drawer), even if they kept them as "options" to be turned on by those who depend on them or prefer them. I have very detailed notes attached to my events, which are impossible to read in the "new improved" balloons. And where is the jump to TODAY diamond? Using the 24 hour clock to schedule is a pain in Leopard as well. On top of all the other "double clicks" to enter an event or edit it, when using the 24 hour clock you have to change to week view and drag your event to the correct time since if you are in the afternoon trying to schedule an event in the future that is in the morning it won't let you type the time in or visa versa (another glitch? Not from Apple?). So all of you who schedule using month view, you now need to change your scheduling habits to use the week or day view and then iCal will "just work".
This is how bad the Leopard version of iCal is: I sync my calendars between several machines and devices using Plaxo, and it is easier to open Windows using Parallels, wait for it to boot up and connect to the internet, and then open Outlook, go to Calendar and input a new event and let it sync to iCal then inputting a new event directly in iCal Leopard version. So, as you can see, "iCal just works", but only just...MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.8), Running Windows XP Home on Boot Camp
Interesting to read the discussion... I am also missing the fact that you can no longer see notes in an event in week view (if the event was big enough the notes were readable right there in the event in previous versions) - now you have to click - to get to notes.
If this bugs anyone else my workaround is to put notes in either the event name (kind of ugly) or in the Location field which does show up without further clicking, and nicely differentiated by a dash.G5 Powermac, Mac OS X (10.5.1), G4 Powerbook 'till they upgrade the MacBook Pro! Cmon!
Currently Being ModeratedMay 1, 2008 2:38 PM (in response to blamelewis)You cannot see notes in the month view either. That is very upsetting, because I have to look at the notes to get directions, and/or find out who the speaker is or the topic and if I need to take anything with me to the meeting.
I still think when a new event is selected, that the edit mode should come up automatically, and that would solve many of the headaches from this version of ical.2ghz intel core 2 duo, Mac OS X (10.5.2), 1gb memory, built-in ethernet local network, with powerbook, printer and tower G4
Currently Being ModeratedMay 1, 2008 5:39 PM (in response to blamelewis)Here's the steps I've figured out to ease my consternation with iCal 3:
- Click and drag or double click (if you're creating a new event)
- Click once to select (if you're editing an existing event)
- On your keyboard press *cmd + e* (for edit)
- Fill in or edit the title
- On your keyboard press *shift + tab* to move the cursor to the note field
- Add or edit your notes (Typinator or Text Expander help for this)
- On your keyboard, press esc to exit edit mode and close the edit bubble
My hope is that the iCal engineers will hear and respond to the hew and cry regarding the edit panel. However in the mean tme, perhaps these steps will help a few others. Remember the esc key is the quickest way to exit the edit bubble.
Message was edited by: torqtMacbook Pro 2.33Ghz, Mac OS X (10.5.2)
Thanks for these short-cuts, but this does not address the main problem
with Leopard's iCal 3 interface.
One should be able to key around and have the data available without
blotting out the calendar view. Instead, extra key-clicks are needed for
the dubious benefit of an balloon throwing itself up over half the
calendar, and then displaying a very limited view of data.
The greatest lacking, for me, is the ability to rapidly inspect data over
a period. Suppose one searched the calendar for a title key on run-times,
or summary of cash flow. In the list results list one could cursor down,
simultaneously inspecting the data at each event. Several events per
second can be examined under iCal 2/ Tiger.
Rapid data inspection is no longer available with the new iCal 3.0 . This
makes it - and Leopard - not fit for purpose, I very much regret to say.
Even more regrettably, it's clear that Mac app interfaces are now designed
with a primary focus on screens a few inches square, and desktops are
suffering the inevitable scramble for screen space. What works for iPhones
is not necessarily best for 23" monitors. But Apple does not appear to
understand that.Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.11), 5G mem, 2T disk, Logitech G5 mouse