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2273 Views 11 Replies Latest reply: Aug 10, 2008 4:14 AM by yashrgupta
Currently Being ModeratedJun 15, 2008 4:03 AM (in response to BigPa)Have you tried repairing the disk permissions?
To do this, in Finder go to Applications>Utilities>Disk Utility
Once you have opened Disk Utility select your start-up drive and then click "Repair Disk Permissions".
It would also be beneficial to check your system.log file, and post the most recently entries around when you are having the problem with OS X.
To check the system logs, in Finder go to Applications>Utilities>Console.
ElliotMacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.3), G5 dual 2.7ghz ; Xserve dual 2.7ghz
Currently Being ModeratedJun 15, 2008 4:51 AM (in response to BigPa)First of all, are running you have any third party apps that change system appearance?
If so, try removing them from System Preferences >> Accounts >> Login Items.
Create a new account, name it "test" and see how your apps work in that User acct? (That will tell if your problem is systemwide or limited to your User acct.) This account is just for test, do nothing further with it.
Open System Preferences >> Accounts >> "+" make it an admin account.
If the problem is present in the test account also, then it is systemwide. In this case try repairing this with the 10.5.3 Combo Updater. This is a fuller install, as opposed to an incremental "delta" update so it should overwrite any files that are damaged or missing. It does not matter if you have applied it before.
Remember to Verify Disk before update and repair permissions after update from /Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility.
Message was edited by: macjackiMac 24" 2.16 GHz 3GB RAM, Mac OS X (10.5.3), iMac G4 17" 800 MHz 768MB/ iMac 333MHz 256 MB / LaCie d2s/ APC-UPS
Currently Being ModeratedJun 15, 2008 12:10 PM (in response to Elliot Theis)Elliot - thanks for the reply!
I repaired permissions on "Macintosh HD" and got a long list of issues. Then I ran it again and got:
Repairing permissions for “Macintosh HD”
Reading permissions database.
Reading the permissions database can take several minutes.
ACL found but not expected on "private/etc/apache2/httpd.conf".
Permissions repair complete
Can I assume this unrepairable notification is nothing to worry about?
I looked at the log and can't isolate the last occurrence of these problems with any confidence, but will do as you say in the future.
Thanks!Mac OS X (10.5.2), Macbook Pro 17"
Currently Being ModeratedJun 15, 2008 12:15 PM (in response to BigPa)Try making another account to see if the problem persists there. Additionally you can try booting up in Safe mode (with the shift key held down) to see if that solves the problem. If safe mode works then it's some faulty driver or plug-in that's causing the problem, and you can go about troubleshooting those possibilities.PowerMac G5 dual 2.5GHz, PowerBook G4 1GHz DVI, Mac OS X (10.5.3), When in doubt, opt-cmd-P-R
Currently Being ModeratedJun 15, 2008 12:21 PM (in response to macjack)macjack - I will create the new account and ses how that goes, thanks! Plus, I will try the combo patch as well.
Repairing disk permissions listed many problems so hopefully that helped.
Looking at my login items, I found the following:
Logitech Control Center
Keyboard Maestro Engine
The reason for many of these it that I have pretty bad RSI issues and need all the help I can get.
Do any of these ring any bells as potential causes of the problems?
Not remembering what Growl is I googled it and found this article which talks about conflicts with the logitech control center which I do need to keep.
I'm not sure I get what Growl is all about, but I will disable it plus as many of the above as I can in the test account and see how that holds up.
RichardMac OS X (10.5.2), Macbook Pro 17"
Currently Being ModeratedJun 15, 2008 12:49 PM (in response to BigPa)Could easily be one of those login items. To check try starting in "Safe Mode" (It will take more time to startup in Safe Mode because it runs a directory check.)
If that seems good, go to System Preferences >> Accounts >> Login Items and remove them. Boot normally and test. If not go to ~(yourHome)/Library/Contextual Menu Items and move whatever is there to the desktop. Then do the same with /Library/Contextual Menu Items.
-mjiMac 24" 2.16 GHz 3GB RAM, Mac OS X (10.5.3), iMac G4 17" 800 MHz 768MB/ iMac 333MHz 256 MB / LaCie d2s/ APC-UPS
Currently Being ModeratedJun 16, 2008 3:57 AM (in response to macjack)So far so good! TIme will tell though. I did everything you suggested except trying to work in the test account. After creating and logging into the account, I have to reset too many program specific items (like re-creating email logins etc.) and I just don't have the time - too much work to do.
So hopefully, per your suggestions:
1. having removed some startup items after starting in safe mode
2. installing the combo upgrade and
3. repairing permissions and
4. cleaning caches
has done the trick.
Thanks very much, I really appreciate it!!Mac OS X (10.5.2), Macbook Pro 17"
Currently Being ModeratedJul 25, 2008 12:00 PM (in response to BigPa)I have tried all of the above and still cannot launch many applications. This came out of the blue. From the console, I get messages like this, but disk utility reports no errors!
2008/07/25 8:54:35 PM quicklookd EXCEPTION CPMessageException: (null)
2008/07/25 8:54:36 PM quicklookd EXCEPTION CPMessageException: (null)
2008/07/25 8:55:36 PM kernel disk0s2: 0xe0030005 (UNDEFINED).
2008/07/25 8:56:01 PM kernel disk0s2: 0xe0030005 (UNDEFINED).
2008/07/25 8:56:02 PM ReportCrash Formulating crash report for process ReportCrash
2008/07/25 8:56:03 PM ReportCrash Saved crashreport to /Users/btucker/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/ReportCrash2008-07-25-205601ziggy.crash using uid: 502 gid: 502, euid: 502 egid: 502
2008/07/25 8:56:03 PM com.apple.launchd (com.apple.ReportCrash) Exited abnormally: Bus error
2008/07/25 8:56:08 PM ReportCrash Formulating crash report for process QuickTime Player
2008/07/25 8:56:10 PM ReportCrash Saved crashreport to /Library/Logs/CrashReporter/QuickTime Player2008-07-25-205603ziggy.crash using uid: 0 gid: 0, euid: 0 egid: 0
2008/07/25 8:56:09 PM com.apple.launchd ([0x0-0x18018].com.apple.quicktimeplayer) Exited abnormally: Bus error
2008/07/25 8:58:20 PM kernel disk0s2: 0xe0030005 (UNDEFINED).
2008/07/25 8:58:20 PM PubSubAgent SQL Error: SQLITEIOERRREAD[10.1]: disk I/O error in "SELECT * FROM Contents WHERE rowID=?"
2008/07/25 8:58:20 PM PubSubAgent <<<< ABORTED TRANSACTION
2008/07/25 8:58:20 PM PubSubAgent SQLite::Exception "SQLITEIOERRREAD[10.1]: disk I/O error in "SELECT * FROM Contents WHERE rowID=?"" caught in bool PubSub::PollingFeeder::parseFeed(const Foundation::Data*, Foundation::NetError&)
2008/07/25 8:58:35 PM /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.
2008/07/25 8:58:37 PM /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.
2008/07/25 8:58:37 PM /usr/sbin/ocspd starting
2008/07/25 8:58:40 PM /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.MacBook 2.16GHz, Mac OS X (10.5.4), 2 GB SDRAM, 160 GB HD
Currently Being ModeratedJul 25, 2008 12:27 PM (in response to BigPa)Two things not mentioned so far:
A copy of Alsoft Disk Warrior is better and more reliable at repairing boot drive than Apple First Aid and I don't see where you have even booted from another drive to run First Aid.
Clone your system to another drive and repair the drive, repair permissions, apply combo, then boot from new clone and try things out and that way you have one system you can muck around with and try new account, cleaning caches etc. You can also clean caches and such while booted from an alternate drive, so more useful than your Install Leopard DVD.
To Clone, SuperDuper is well regarded.
Boot from your Install DVD OEM with 'd' and run Apple Hardware Test for extended test.
Run Rember or Memtest to test memory.
I spent years wearing wrist support braces, wrist pad, etc. Could only type for 20 minutes a day before shooting pain would make me stop.
I would never install or add anything without first booting from another drive to repair a drive and check it for errors.Mac Pro 2 x 10K Raptor, Mac OS X (10.5.4), G4-MDD 10.4.11 ACD 23" APC RS1500 Vista x64
Currently Being ModeratedJul 25, 2008 9:02 PM (in response to The hatter)what's the point of duplicating a messed up system?MacBook 2.16GHz, Mac OS X (10.5.2), 2 GB SDRAM, 160 GB HD
Currently Being ModeratedAug 10, 2008 4:14 AM (in response to Bill Tucker)Wow.. really comprehensive thread. I'll try that. But I can't even launch disk utility or terminal now. But things will work fine for a bit after I restart. then things start going wrong like Command+tab is not working, menubar gets stuck to one particular application, other running applications won't come to the foreground when I click on their icon in the dock... I am just so bugged at this.macbook pro core2duo 2.16 GHz, Mac OS X (10.5.2), LaCie D2 quadra external hard drive firewire800