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Switching off sort order "intelligence"

1205 Views 8 Replies Latest reply: Nov 9, 2008 12:44 AM by Ape Simpson RSS
RobertCailliau Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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Jun 24, 2008 2:23 PM
I have songs in many languages in my iTunes library. I would like to switch OFF completely any attempts by iTunes to behave in a so-called "intelligent" way when sorting.

E.g. I want "A la recherche des ennuis" to appear under A and not under L, and I want "De ijssalon" under D (where it actually goes). I want "The Beatles" under T and not under B.

In short, I just want iTunes to make *no attempt whatever* at intelligent sorting.
Anyone know how to do this?
Dual G5, Mac OS X (10.4.11), plus many other Macs.
  • varjak paw Level 10 Level 10 (167,190 points)
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    Jun 24, 2008 3:00 PM (in response to RobertCailliau)
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  • varjak paw Level 10 Level 10 (167,190 points)
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    Jun 26, 2008 8:40 AM (in response to RobertCailliau)
    is your answer the only option?

    Yes. There's no other option to change how iTunes sorts. The Sort fields were added just for this purpose.

    I guess I could take the trouble to write an Applescript to copy the name etc. into the sort-name fields to override the sort order

    You might find a pre-built AppleScript at Doug's AppleScripts for iTunes that would help.
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  • Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (37,475 points)
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    Jun 26, 2008 8:45 AM (in response to RobertCailliau)
    RobertCailliau wrote:
    And I'd want to use catalog numbers, such as found in HWV or KV or BWV. No field to put those. No fields can be added either.


    You could use the Grouping field for any information you want, including catalog numbers. Personally, I use it for country of origin.

    Best of luck.
    MacBook Core 2 Duo, Mac OS X (10.5.3), Current iPods: 60 gig black iPod w/video, 3 Gen Nano 4 gig, 16 gig Touch
  • Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (37,475 points)
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    Jul 4, 2008 7:33 AM (in response to RobertCailliau)
    Glad it was some little help. iTunes really wasn't built for Classical music. You aren't the first to be frustrated.
    MacBook Core 2 Duo, Mac OS X (10.5.3), Current iPods: 60 gig black iPod w/video, 3 Gen Nano 4 gig, 16 gig Touch
  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (73,395 points)
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    Sep 10, 2008 7:45 PM (in response to RobertCailliau)
    Select all the songs.
    Right click get info.
    Go to the Sorting tab. (New in iTunes 8 - Sort tabs for multiple items at once)
    Tick the box in front of *Sort Artist*, then OK.
    This will "zero" them all out.

    However, any new songs added will still get sorted ignoring A, The and An (like you don't want).
    You can stop this if you wish.

    Quit iTunes.
    Go to the iTunes application and make a copy (Option drag).
    On the original, right click - Show package contents.
    Go to /iTunes.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj.
    Find SortPrefixes.plist.
    Drag it the desktop and close the window.
    Launch iTunes. New songs will get sorted without ignoring A, The and An.
    iMac G5 (Rev B) ALS - 2 GB RAM, Mac OS X (10.4.11), silver mini, blue mini, silver shuffle
  • Ape Simpson Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    Nov 9, 2008 12:44 AM (in response to Chris CA)
    Sadly this tip doesnt work for me. I even deleted the SortPrefixes.plist from all the other languages. Still the same sortingbehaviour. I use iTunes 8.01

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