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Does the iPhone 3G work with iPod Hi-Fi?

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Vackraord Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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Jul 7, 2008 2:04 AM
As the topic says, will I be able to dock a iPhone 3G into my iPod Hi-Fi?
macbook, Mac OS X (10.5.4)
  • Mitch 751 Level 6 Level 6 (11,500 points)
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    Jul 7, 2008 2:17 AM (in response to Vackraord)
    I gave my iPod Hi Fi before I bought an iPhone, but my iTouch works on it ... so I am sure it should be ok, anyone get confirm this?
    2.8G Mac Pro, 24" iMac, few different models of iPod, iTouch and iPhone., Mac OS X (10.5.3), I am just a user like you who enjoy helping others.
  • deggie Level 8 Level 8 (44,805 points)
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    Jul 7, 2008 3:14 PM (in response to Mitch 751)
    Since the iPhone 3G is not available until July 11th I have no way to confirm this.
    MacPro Dual Core 2.66 Ghz, MacBook Pro 15", Mac OS X (10.5.2), AEXs, Red 2G Nano, Red Shuffle, 16GB Touch, 160 GB Classic, White 60GB 5G
  • Mitch 751 Level 6 Level 6 (11,500 points)
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    Jul 7, 2008 8:04 PM (in response to deggie)
    Yes, you are right diggie.

    At worst, the iPod HiFi should work with 3G iPhone by connecting with its input on the back i.e. iPhone's earphone -----> input (on the back) of iPod HiFi
    2.8G Mac Pro, 24" iMac, few different models of iPod, iTouch and iPhone., Mac OS X (10.5.3), I am just a user like you who enjoy helping others.
  • deggie Level 8 Level 8 (44,805 points)
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    Jul 7, 2008 8:16 PM (in response to Mitch 751)
    I'll let you know next week, I still have my HiFi.
    MacPro Dual Core 2.66 Ghz, MacBook Pro 15", Mac OS X (10.5.2), AEXs, Red 2G Nano, Red Shuffle, 16GB Touch, 160 GB Classic, White 60GB 5G
  • Mitch 751 Level 6 Level 6 (11,500 points)
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    Jul 7, 2008 8:27 PM (in response to deggie)
    Lucky you, Deggie

    In Hong Kong, there have already 60-70K pre-orders for the 3G iPhones, heard only 500 available for the first shipment.
    2.8G Mac Pro, 24" iMac, few different models of iPod, iTouch and iPhone., Mac OS X (10.5.3), I am just a user like you who enjoy helping others.
  • Pahtex Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jul 11, 2008 7:17 PM (in response to Vackraord)
    I found unbelivable that while the Iphone does connect to the Hi-Fi it simply doesn't charge it!

    it keeps showing a message that "charging is not compatible with this accessory"...

    simply amazing...
  • Jason Buecker Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)
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    Jul 11, 2008 8:48 PM (in response to Pahtex)
    Agreed!

    Can anyone explain why the HIFI does not charge the 3G iPhone?

    Cheers,
    JB
  • Cory Bauer Level 2 Level 2 (275 points)
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    Jul 13, 2008 6:11 PM (in response to Pahtex)
    Yeah, what's probably more annoying than the fact that it doesn't charge in the Hifi is that the iPhone defaults back to the "charging not supported" error screen whenever the phone times out to be locked (whatever you have this set to in the preferences).
    17" MacBook Pro 2.16Ghz, Mac OS X (10.5.4)
  • Pahtex Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jul 15, 2008 5:46 PM (in response to Cory Bauer)
    I was thinking the exact same thing, not only it doesn't charge but it also doesn't makes any effort for us that bought this system to use it at all...

    Even JBL and BOSE are rumored to launch an adapter in order to make the pepole who spent money with their system feel like they have some sort of support. (even though they eventually have to pay for that connector)

    One should think that a company like apple would support their customers to this extent...
  • Michael Coyne Level 1 Level 1 (70 points)
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    Jul 27, 2008 7:47 PM (in response to Jason Buecker)
    I'll throw in my own *** here.

    The hi-fi is clearly a forgotten device. Even so, I find it unbelievable that anything with a dock connector would not be able to charge any iphone or ipod. What's up with that?

    It plays my music, but I had gotten really used to using my hifi as a charger for my 1st gen iphone. Guess I am out of luck with the 3G iphone.
    24" iMac / Macbook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.4)
  • Michael Coyne Level 1 Level 1 (70 points)
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    Jul 27, 2008 7:49 PM (in response to Jason Buecker)
    I'll throw in my own *** here.

    The hi-fi is clearly a forgotten device. Even so, I find it unbelievable that anything with a dock connector would not be able to charge any iphone or ipod. What's up with that?

    It plays my music, but I had gotten really used to using my hifi as a charger for my 1st gen iphone. Guess I am out of luck with the 3G iphone.
    24" iMac / Macbook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.4)
  • Michael Coyne Level 1 Level 1 (70 points)
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    Jul 27, 2008 7:52 PM (in response to Jason Buecker)
    Agreed as well. This is pretty unbelievable. It has a dock charger, why won't my hifi charge my 3G iphone like it did my 1st gen iphone?
    24" iMac / Macbook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.4)
  • DearCheech Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jul 28, 2008 2:34 PM (in response to Pahtex)
    not sure if this applies here...

    reposted for discussion sake:



    ..The Charging System...

    Most chargers on the market today are designed to charge via USB or via 12v through the firewire portion of apple dock pins (pins 19,20 12V DC and pins 29,30 Ground). This was an easy choice for the manufacturers because your car is already a 12V based system that kept the charging solutions inexpensive to make. If they already had 12V available, why step it down to 5V to charge via the USB pins? Makes sense right? As you know, Apple has eliminated 12V charging from their newer units but has left a sensing circuit on the firewire pins just to tell you that your old device doesnt work anymore. Your existing chargers will not harm the Iphone, but they are certainly useless.

    The new way to charge is through the USB pins on the Apple dock connector ( pin 16 USB GND, pin 23 USB Power 5 VDC, pin 25 USB Data negative, pin 27 USB Data positive ). BUT, you cannot just apply 5V to pin 23 and ground to pin 16. The Iphone is also sensing voltage on USB Data positive (approx 1.8v) and USB Data negative (approx 2.5V).

    ...The Audio System...

    If you had an older gen Ipod like an Ipod Video then the audio outputs were real easy, it always put line out audio through the audio pins in the dock connector. The Iphone is a different animal. The audio and serial pins are still the same on the dock connector, BUUT, there is an accessroy pin (pin 21) that senses the type of accessory that is plugged in. If the correct resistance is NOT on pin 21 then the Iphone completely ignores the connection and does not redirect the audio to the dock. Thus most of your old Ipod Interfaces are now obsolete..

    I personally have an IPAC-OEM interface (pac-audio.com) to my Buick Regal that worked great with my Ipod Video (charge, audio, steering wheel controls). When I plug in my Iphone 3G, it gives me the aircraft warning (I hit no) then audio Video works fine. It wont charge, but again, audio, video and steering wheel controls work as they should. I sent them an email this morning asking when they will have an Iphone solution. They may already have it, but havent updated their site.

    I also have a ic-ALPA interface from PAC that connects to my Alpine stereo in my other car via the Alpine AI-net. It will do charge and audio on my Ipod Video, on my 3G it does nothing. Ofcourse as we've seen above, it's a 12V charger which does nothing on the 3G and it lacks the proper indicator on pin 21 to tell the 3G what to do.

    There's a lot of manufacturers that are going to have to play catchup for a while. Wonder how long that will take?

    So, I think that settles it for the most part, I hope this helps.

    TheEther...



    p.s.


    http://carljonard.com/2008/07/how-to-charge-your-iphone-3g-in-the-car/


    p.s.s.

    apple get your **** together... !
    iMac Touch, Mac OS X (10.5.4), i love apple !
  • DearCheech Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Aug 6, 2008 11:14 PM (in response to DearCheech)
    well the 2.0.1 update did nothing to help the ipod hifi situation.
    it is not even acknowledged by apple, even though them made this system.

    doesn't anyone have a answer ?
    iMac Touch, Mac OS X (10.5.4), i love apple !
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