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Sep 22, 2008 7:47 PM in response to Nielby John B Black,Thanks, Niel. Unless I missed something, however, that version says it's for OS 8.1. Will it work with 7.5?
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Sep 22, 2008 7:50 PM in response to John B Blackby Niel,★HelpfulWill it work with 7.5?
Yes, for the purpose of starting up the computer and repairing the drive.
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Sep 23, 2008 10:56 AM in response to John B Blackby Jan Hedlund,Hi John,
Just as a side-note, a PC Card adapter for CompactFlash and a CF memory card (reformatted to Mac) can be very useful. With an appropriate system folder, the card will be bootable in one of the PC Card slots of a PowerBook 5300. The card could contain disk utilities et cetera. CF can also be used for file transfers from/to other computers (a USB card reader may be needed).
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Sep 23, 2008 1:00 PM in response to Jan Hedlundby John B Black,Thanks again, Jan, for another helpful suggestion. If I do that I'd go for an SD adapter, as I have SD cards and a reader already on hand.
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Sep 23, 2008 2:19 PM in response to John B Blackby Jan Hedlund,Hi again,
If you can, use a PC Card adapter for CompactFlash. CF appears to be faster than SD (the latter in a 6-in-1 PC Card adapter). This is probably more related to adapter differences than to the cards themselves.
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Sep 23, 2008 7:15 PM in response to Jan Hedlundby John B Black,If it comes to using this approach, Jan, I'd use SD cards because I already have them, and I'd have to buy a CF card. Speed isn't an issue because I'm only fine-tuning these machines, not working on them to keep.
I may have to try this approach though, as the disk tools file I downloaded that says it's for OS 8.1 failed to start up the 5300. I tried twice but the floppy drive spits the disk out and defaults to the hard drive. I found a 7.5 disk tools on an OS 7.5 Install CD which I had around here, so now I just need to get a system folder and enabler that will fit on a floppy and boot the computer.
Working with old hardware and software can be challenging! It doesn't seem so long ago though that this stuff was current.
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Sep 24, 2008 1:16 AM in response to John B Blackby Jan Hedlund,I'd use SD cards because I already have them, and I'd have to buy a CF card. Speed isn't an issue because I'm only fine-tuning these machines
OK. SD cards can be made bootable, too. The 6-in-1 PC Card adapter that I use for SD is from SanDisk (as is an adapter for CF only), but other makes/models may work as well. Remember the re-formatting (HFS).
When starting from a flash card, one can press and hold the four keys Command(Apple) + Option(Alt) + Shift + Delete(Backspace) in order to bypass the internal hard disk (and its system folder). One can also choose a startup disk in the Startup Disk control panel.I found a 7.5 disk tools on an OS 7.5 Install CD
The PowerBook 5300 requires minimum 7.5.2.the disk tools file I downloaded that says it's for OS 8.1 failed to start up the 5300. I tried twice but the floppy drive spits the disk out and defaults to the hard drive.
The Disk Tools PPC can, as Niel indicated, be used in a PowerBook 5300. Do not forget the Make a Floppy command (under the Utilities menu) in Disk Copy 6.3.3 for a properly sector-copied diskette from the disk image.
Alternatively, the At Ease-IDE Utility Disk here could possibly be of interest to you.
If you wish to install an operating system onto an SD card, you could use the system software installer (Easy or Custom Install). If necessary, a full System 7.5.3 is downloadable from Apple (for instance, the North American English version here).
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Sep 24, 2008 11:28 AM in response to Jan Hedlundby John B Black,Thanks to both Niel and Jan. Making the Disk Tools PPC download work depended on using Disk Copy 6.3.3. It had been so long since I had used that software that I had forgotten about it. Disk Copy made a usable floppy that enabled me to do the disk repair, the need for which prompted me to start this thread. Now that the hard disk is where it needs to be I intend to take this 5300 up to 7.5.5, for which I have the installation floppies from when I did it many years ago on my SE/30.
John