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  • 105. Re: iPhone 3G Reception Problems? You're Not Alone - yet again
    Envision99 Level 4 Level 4 (1,165 points)
    They changed the 3G signal with the 2.1 firmware.
  • 106. Re: iPhone 3G Reception Problems? You're Not Alone - yet again
    3acc Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thanks for that .... just when I thought it would be something deeper....
  • 107. Re: iPhone 3G Reception Problems? You're Not Alone - yet again
    OneOrangeTree Level 1 Level 1 (80 points)
    It's time to sell my iPhone and purchase a Nokia N95 or N96 because Fring can run in the background for Nokia.

    I can get the LOWEST minute plan and Media Net ($15 for all you can eat data) and use ShaggyTalk.com to make and receive all my calls!

    Use MSN to call internationally.


    Use Skype to receive support calls for the company.


    Apple's biggest limitation is no background services (and no push notification)
  • 108. Re: iPhone 3G Reception Problems? You're Not Alone - yet again
    Envision99 Level 4 Level 4 (1,165 points)
    It's my theory that Apple will only release minor feature enhancements until the next model is introduced. They are probably going to wait until the next iPhone for the big feature additions, as this will keep people buying the newer phone when it comes out.
  • 109. Re: iPhone 3G Reception Problems? You're Not Alone - yet again
    Doug Clements Level 1 Level 1 (95 points)
    Hello Envision99,

    Agreed. Also keep in mind that Apple has just launched many new countries... with more coming soon. So the focus is on sales, sales, sales.

    Doug
  • 110. Re: iPhone 3G Reception Problems? You're Not Alone - yet again
    Envision99 Level 4 Level 4 (1,165 points)
    True, but a they should have separate people working on the sales portion than the actual programming and development of the phone. I can see if they were having the programmers and the designers of the phone working on the many languages and working on making it compatible with the various service providers.

    I guess since I don't know how Apple is dividing up the work and how they have everything structured in regards to the iPhone I can't really comment. I only hope that apple will listen to the users feedback and feature requests and keep them in mind for the iPhone.
  • 111. Re: iPhone 3G Reception Problems? You're Not Alone - yet again
    Doug Clements Level 1 Level 1 (95 points)
    Hey Envision99,

    Agreed. I was just being sarcastic

    Doug
  • 112. Re: iPhone 3G Reception Problems? You're Not Alone - yet again
    Envision99 Level 4 Level 4 (1,165 points)
    Oh jeez, I've been so busy and running in every direction today I didn't even catch on the sarcasm lol.
  • 113. Re: iPhone 3G Reception Problems? You're Not Alone - yet again
    barjohng Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I was on my second iPhone and it was dropping calls (it was updated to 2.1). I was in Tyson's Corner Virginia area (on travel from CA) and phone reception was good (both bars and dbms) but it was still dropping calls. I went into the local Apple store and the Genius checked the phone. I had only recently restored the phone back to 2.1 to try and solve the dropped calls issue. He said that I was only showing 10% dropped calls and that was below Apple's threshold to replace the phone. Later that evening I get a customer survey on my experience with the Genius. I write that I am a business traveler and that while Apple may think 10% dropped calls is acceptable I don't. Further, it bothers me that they think so little of my time as to send me off without a fix after my taking the time to make an appointment, come to their store and wait (they were about 20 minutes late. The next day the store manager calls and leaves a message that he wants to talk to me. I called him back the following day (I was in meetings until it was too late to call him) and we made an appointment to meet. He apologized for my experience, had my phone replaced and for my extra trouble gave me a free one year additional warranty and a priority card. The new iPhone had 2.02 and I have not upgraded it. I don't like the misleading readout on the bars and the way it switches to EDGE for no apparent reason. Performance has been better. Even with just 1 bar (-103 dbm) it seems to hold a call and not switch to EDGE. While there are some things to like about 2.1 there are too many not to like. I will wait and see what 2.2 has to offer. I hope they go back to giving a true readout on the bars. Speed has also been better on this phone with 2.02. The serial number is 5K8382CZY7H. Model MB046LL and modem firmware 02.08.01. In strong signal areas like Virginia and D.C. it worked really well. In southern CA it works but not as well. It appears to be a combination of the iPhone having problems with weak signals and Southern CA having crappy AT&T 3G service.
  • 114. Re: iPhone 3G Reception Problems? You're Not Alone - yet again
    Christopher John Hunter Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    appears to be a combination of the iPhone having problems with weak signals and ...


    I'd echo that ('though we're using our iPhones on O2, in the UK) ... where we were yesterday (we're often there) is a marginal area, and the weather was clagged in & it seemed to be even more marginal than usual ... things are usually more or less OK, but yesterday response was much worse than usual ... ie: it seems things go over a cliff-edge at some point, as the signal situation goes down. We definitely don't need lots of bars to get high data transfer rates ... often one or two are fine, but not always !!

    BTW, this business of dropped connections is much more common, for us, with our Hutchison 3 USB 3G stick, the signal for which seems to be mostly good but with periods when it's not (ie: usually 4-5 bars, but erratically going down to one or worse for periods - in the same place) ... so my feeling is this is more a 3G network thing ... 'though doubtless iPhone / USB stick software can help or hinder ...

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  • 115. Re: iPhone 3G Reception Problems? You're Not Alone - yet again
    generallysuspicious Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Just to add that 3G reception problems with iphone are found also here in ireland. I frequently get 2no service" message on 3G. AVRhack has summed it up best for me on this thread: it is an Apple problem and it hasn't been resolved by software updates. Will it be solved on iphone3 which will be a hardware upgrade? Apple should have stuck to ipod. The ipod touch seems to be the area they can get right; mobile phones were a step too far. I will stick to iphone for duration of my contract and see how far rivals like Blackberry and Nokia have got in another year with a similar large screen touch screen 3g phone that works, has wifi, has email, synced calendars, proper camera, video conferencing, etc! Maybe Apple will realise that they have a "nearly" device and if they ignore trying to be uber cool in the slim stakes and give people what they want and satisfy the appetite for a touch screen phone that works they will sell many more.
  • 116. Re: iPhone 3G Reception Problems? You're Not Alone - yet again
    taltal Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
    it seems dropped calls and reception issues are still there with 2.1 for others as well:

    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1745562&tstart=0
  • 117. Re: iPhone 3G Reception Problems? You're Not Alone - yet again
    jderosa Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I have been waiting to pull the trigger to get an iPhone. I have been following this and other threads and just when it seems that things are getting better I saw this interesting post on the AT&T iPhone discussion forum. I go to a lot of sporting events and this may be a big problem.

    Any thoughts?

    http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=apple&thread.id=60443
  • 118. Re: iPhone 3G Reception Problems? You're Not Alone - yet again
    Envision99 Level 4 Level 4 (1,165 points)
    I was waiting about 2 months ago just like you before I purchased an iPhone. I read all the forums, especially this one, did research on the iPhone 3G and the reception problems, etc. In the end I decided to purchase this phone, and I'm 100% happy I did (I already knew it couldn't do mms, so I was shocked when it didn't have it). I've had a few problems here and there with the phone, but overall I love this phone and don't know why I didn't get it a year ago. I actually paid to terminate my verizon contract to go to AT&T and get the iphone, and let me tell you it was worth it.

    There are problems with the reception and as your link shows, it sometimes happens when the network is over congested. This isn't a problem you will see all the time, and I've been to Indians games in Cleveland with my phone and never had this problem.

    If you are still unsure, but don't mind spending a little bit of money to test it out and see for yourself if you like it here you go:
    1- Don't cancel your current contract (if you're not with AT&T)
    2- You have 14 days to return the iPhone without a restocking fee.
    3- You have 30 days to cancel a new contract without having to pay the early cancellation fee.
    4- You will only have to pay for the amount of days you use the phone.
  • 119. Re: iPhone 3G Reception Problems? You're Not Alone - yet again
    jderosa Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thanks for the advice Envision. That is pretty much what I am going to do. My wife and I currently have two Treo 650's with Verizon that we are no longer under contract. As a Mac user, the Treo never could sync quite the way I would like and the iPhone would be great.

    I plan to get two iPhones next week and test them out. If all goes well after a couple of weeks, I'll cancel Verizon. It's kind of scary because I have been with Verizon for the last 7 years without any issues.

    I work in the NY city and live on Long Island. Most people I know with the 3G iPhone do not have any major problems. I hope any issues with reception will get better as the AT&T 3G network continues to improve.
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