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2593 Views 6 Replies Latest reply: Dec 28, 2008 2:44 AM by jsd2
Currently Being ModeratedDec 25, 2008 6:35 PM (in response to Rob Stevenson)In the affected account, go to System Preferences>Universal Access, click on the Seeing tab.
If VoiceOver is on, then turn turn it it off off.iMac G5 1.8 GHz, Mac OS X (10.4.11)
Currently Being ModeratedDec 25, 2008 6:54 PM (in response to jsd2)Okay, now the $64,000 question. Eh?!?
I mean, why does that menu in particular get duplicated items in it when Voiceover is on? I suppose there is some logic to it, but I can't, er, um, see it.
RobiMac Intel Core 2 Duo, Mac OS X (10.4.11)
Currently Being ModeratedDec 25, 2008 7:34 PM (in response to Rob Stevenson)The reason is not intuitively obvious, I would agree.
But since it can't possibly be a bug, it must be, umm, a "feature."iMac G5 1.8 GHz, Mac OS X (10.4.11)
Currently Being ModeratedDec 27, 2008 8:02 PM (in response to Rob Stevenson)( deleted accidentally duplicated my response--ironically enough :^) )
Message was edited by: Rick Anderson
Message was edited by: Rick AndersonMac OS X (10.5.1)
Currently Being ModeratedDec 27, 2008 8:00 PM (in response to Rob Stevenson)Your original post was off slightly. Those menu items were in fact not duplicated exactly (i.e., I suspect you didn't actually see two entries for "Sleep.")
What you most likely saw was:
Those are duplicated commands but not duplicate entries. Notice all the entries followed by an ellipsis are duplicated with a version not followed by an ellipsis. The ellipsis indicates that the command will bring up a confirmation dialog. The version without would happen immediately with no confirmation dialog. (You can get these non-ellipses versions normally by holding down the option key when in the Apple menu.)
Since VoiceOver is part of the Universal Access settings which is for people with disabilities, my guess would be that having the option saves folks who might have trouble mousing around and clicking buttons one more step in shutting down or restarting.Mac OS X (10.5.1)
Currently Being ModeratedDec 28, 2008 2:44 AM (in response to Rick Anderson)Ah!
Exploring further, I see that in the various Finder menus, enabling VoiceOver displays choices that are normally visible only when additional keys are pressed simultaneously, thus helping people who only have use of one hand.
For instance, in Finder's File menu, normally if you click on File to show the drop-down, and then press the option key, "Open With" changes to "Always Open With," "Close Window" changes to "Close All," "Get Info" changes to "Show Inspector." If you press the shift key, "Add to Sidebar" changes to "Add to Favorites." When VoiceOver is enabled, all these choices are displayed in the File menu simultaneously, without having to press any keys. Finder's View menu is similar with regards to "Clean Up Selection" and "Clean Up."
Thanks very much for posting. And to Apple, since this really IS a feature and not a bug:
My Sincere ApologiesiMac G5 1.8 GHz, Mac OS X (10.4.11)