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70859 Views 233 Replies Latest reply: Sep 7, 2009 12:36 AM by pgpenc
Currently Being ModeratedMay 14, 2009 5:36 AM (in response to Esquared)+Well, explain to me then why my two MBP's don't show this issue anymore after deleting those pref files.+
Good point , but perhaps the MBPs are freezeing because of a different issue to the Macbooks.
Which exact files did you delete? I'll try it tonight and post back with the findings...
Message was edited by: AJM83Macbook, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
Currently Being ModeratedMay 14, 2009 5:35 AM (in response to Esquared)Didn't work for me.
What I've tried till now:
- changing sleep-mode, removing 'sleepimage' and 'swapfile'.
- Removing SMart Crash Report from the computer (and APE).
- Deleting pref files from the root library.
- reinstalling from the combo update, repairing permissions.
None of the above has worked till now.Macbook White, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
Currently Being ModeratedMay 14, 2009 5:44 AM (in response to Si262)
I have exactly the same problem - try putting the MacBook to sleep for a second time = black screen, lots of noise, unable to wake up. Definitely after I installed 10.5.7.
On my MacBook Pro(early 2008): Freeze instead of sleep. No noise however, because I have a very loud Time Machine-drive so I won´t notice a difference.
I´m having exactly the same problem and searched this forum to see if someone already mentioned it. Somebody mentioned a bug report was sent. Will that help? I really like to be able to put my computer to sleep every now and then...MacBook Pro 17" 2.6 GHz Core 2 Duo 4 GB RAM GeForce 8600M GT 512 MB HDD 200 GB, Mac OS X (10.5.7), 1st gen iPod shuffle 512 MB 2nd gen blue iPod nano 4 GB 30" Cinema Display
Currently Being ModeratedMay 14, 2009 5:45 AM (in response to Irfus)I appreciate the effort you all are doing to make this work, but why don't you just bite the bullet and go back to 10.5.6? Based on what I have read here it seems extremely unlikely that you will come up with a magic fix to make this work.MacBook Pro 17", Mac OS X (10.5.6)
Currently Being ModeratedMay 14, 2009 5:57 AM (in response to Jack on the Move)
I need to remove battery, and main power, and let cool down 15 minutes, reconnect, push startup with option key and select the drive even to get a boot process going.
FWIW, unless you actually can feel something hot in the MBP there is probably nothing that needs to cool down. The fan runs in "fail safe" mode: it always runs at full speed unless the OS is operating normally & tells it is OK to slow down. This is why (for instance) if you start it up in Target Disk Mode the fan runs at full speed -- it isn't actually getting very hot but since no OS is loaded there is nothing to tell the fan to slow down.
Also, the permissions problems you report are normal, at least if they say the indicated permissions are currently anything starting with an "l" (the lower case letter el). Search this forum with the phrase "symbolic link" to learn more about what this means & why it is happening. Its cause is not 10.5.7 since this has been reported for several weeks.iMac G5/2.0 GHz 17" ALS; White MacBook/2.4 GHz, Mac OS X (10.5.6), Kensington Trackball; Airport Extreme 802.11n; assorted iPods and older Macs
Currently Being ModeratedMay 14, 2009 5:58 AM (in response to Nathan Goldshlag)Can I just download the 10.5.6 update file and run it, or is there another way to rollback?
I do not have a backup...Macbook White, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
Currently Being ModeratedMay 14, 2009 6:26 AM (in response to Irfus)I take it you do not have a clone of your 10.5.6 disk on another disk using Carbon Copy or Super Duper? If not, then you have to do an archive an install of 10.5.0 and then upgrade to 10.5.6. There will be some work in getting stuff back to where you were, which is why the clone is always the way to go.MacBook Pro 17", Mac OS X (10.5.6)
Currently Being ModeratedMay 14, 2009 6:27 AM (in response to AJM83)Add me to the list. Same two-times sleep issue.
1. First sleep is fine. System sleeps and wakes up as supposed to.
2. Second sleep attempt fails and causes the my MBP to become irresponsive (sleep LED glowing continuously) and eventually reboot.MacBook Pro (3,1), Mac OS X (10.5.7)
Currently Being ModeratedMay 14, 2009 6:33 AM (in response to Esquared)Duh, I meant the sleep image, not the swap file.MBP 2.4 - PB G4 1.25 - Mac Mini DC 1.6, Mac OS X (10.5.4)
Currently Being ModeratedMay 14, 2009 6:39 AM (in response to AJM83)OK, my exact line of events:
1. Resetting the SMC (didn't work by itself, but could be part of the solution).
2. Removing the sleepimage from /var/vm
3. Removing all com.apple related preferences (including the folders SystemConfiguration and DirectoryService) that changed since April 1 to a folder on the desktop.
Both MBP's sleep and wake as intended now.MBP 2.4 - PB G4 1.25 - Mac Mini DC 1.6, Mac OS X (10.5.4)
Currently Being ModeratedMay 14, 2009 6:39 AM (in response to feju)I have two MBPs. The MacBookPro3,1 (2007) has this 2nd sleep freeze problem, the MacBookPro4,1 (2008) doesn't. As I explained in earlier e-mail the MacBookPro3,1 has the problem even after a clean Archieve and Install + 10.5.7 combo updater. I tried deleting preferences files. I thought I had fixed the problem when I deleted the PowerManagement plist, I got by the 2nd sleep, but on the 4th it was back and after reboot it was the same 2nd sleep freeze. I'm back on 10.5.6. I did an Archive and Install from the original DVD, then I applied the 10.5.6 combo installer and then I did a Software update and accepted everything EXCEPT for the 10.5.7 update. I'll keep my MacBookPro3,1 on 10.5.6 until Apple comes up with a fix.MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.6), MacBookPro3,1
Currently Being ModeratedMay 14, 2009 6:43 AM (in response to Nathan Goldshlag)Not everybody owns an external or alternate drive for backups.
What stuff can an archive and install mess up? Will I lose apps, documents, etc?Macbook White, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
Currently Being ModeratedMay 14, 2009 6:45 AM (in response to soren2)So, question is, will I be able to "Archive & Install" from the DVD and keep my docs and apps in place? I've never had to do this, but am ready to get this 10.5.7 off of my system. If you can help, that would be great. Until then, no sleeps and all shut downs for me!2.5GHz Early 2008 MBP, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
Currently Being ModeratedMay 14, 2009 6:47 AM (in response to soren2)Interesting - I have a 4,1 that has the problem and a 1,2 that does not. Both MacBook Pros.MacBook Pro 17", Mac OS X (10.5.6)
Currently Being ModeratedMay 14, 2009 7:04 AM (in response to andrewdale)Sure, no problem with docs and apps. Read http://manuals.info.apple.com/enUS/LeopardInstall-Setup.pdf . Only issue is applications that have installed components in the OS area, e.g. in the StartUp folder. Such applications would likely need to be reinstalled. I know I have to re-install Symantec Antivirus to get it to work, but that was it for me.MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.6)