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10.5.6 breaks Dvorak keyboard shortcuts in Eclipse

19553 Views 72 Replies Latest reply: May 16, 2009 6:55 PM by OldGuyinCalifornia RSS
  • rjonna Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Mar 10, 2009 2:06 PM (in response to masto)
    Adding my voice: it's ridiculous for a such a bug to persist for so long. I was especially surprised that my Kinesis keyboard was also influenced, since the keyboard itself does the remapping.

    Hoping this will be fixed ASAP.
    Macbook Pro 2.4 GHz Intel core 2 duo, Mac OS X (10.5.6)
  • cosmicbdog Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Mar 10, 2009 5:23 PM (in response to masto)
    Well done...

    I have replicated this issue on both of my mac's as I am a dvorak typer.

    Since going back in time is not an option on my setup, I am forced to boot up into windoze just so I can work!!!!

    This is totally unacceptable, and has tarnished my already tarnished view of the excessively more and more windoze like "update every day with another security fix to help you all out" mentality coming through Apple.

    I waited 2 months to update 2 10.5.6.... I was so reluctant.... where was the newsletter or call from my apple store to say "Hey Bobby, don't update... because your workplace will go to ****?". I know you guys have on record that I'm a dvorak typist. How hard is it, you make a dodgy update, you do a product recall... you pull down the update from being available.

    I'm 2 months late to the messed up party of this update... and my dramas could have been avoided by a recall

    Apple.. .where is the patch? I want it now. I want an uninstall program that undoes this crap. I'm surrounded by 20k of APple products I can't use. Well done.
    2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo and 2.8ghz x2 quad core Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.6)
  • OldGuyinCalifornia Calculating status...
    +I feel your pain+. I recently did a reinstall of 10.5, upgrading it only to 10.5.5. It "fixed" the Dvorak problem, and it fixed a bunch of odd problems I had been having with all my browsers and browser based apps. So it was worth the time to me. I agree that OS X, being Unix based, is a pain in the arse anytime something goes wrong. It is becoming as hard as Windows to repair a messed up OS X installation. Or to figure out what part of the install is causing the problem.

    The Dvorak problem did nudge me to start using NeoOffice instead of Microsoft Office. So far I've had a pretty good experience with it. Lemonade from lemons, I guess.
    MacBook 2.4GHz, early 2008, Mac OS X (10.5.5), Have other Macs in house as well
  • Grey Drane Calculating status...
    OldGuyinCalifornia wrote:
    It "fixed" the Dvorak problem, and it fixed a bunch of odd problems I had been having with all my browsers and browser based apps.


    Interesting. Did your browser problems have anything to do with images not loading? I haven't researched it yet, but I've been having problem with images not loading in all sorts of apps: Mail, Firefox, iTunes, pretty much anything Internet related. It's strange, too, because it doesn't seem to be a slow connection issue.

    Anyway, I've changed so many things recently that it's hard to pinpoint what change started this problem.

    Cheers,
    ~G
    iMac 24" (the latest model), Mac OS X (10.5.6)
  • OldGuyinCalifornia Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    My browser problems were really weird. Would get error messages referring to server errors along the lines of "server could not process a request". Happened on certain web pages, reproducibly, in Safari, or Firefox, also happened when I tried to use Logitech's software to update my Harmony remote. I had already reinstalled Safari and Java. Didn't happen on other machines in the house. Genius bar had no answer other than to reinstall.

    As near as I can tell, somewhere in six or so months of use (this started before 10.5.6) I had installed, or partially installed some sort of program that mucked things up. (I am cursed with the "sounds cool, I think I'll try that" syndrome.) Anyway. It runs fine now. And I'm going to wait a bit when 10.5.7 comes out and read about problems before I update.
    MacBook 2.4GHz, early 2008, Mac OS X (10.5.5), Have other Macs in house as well
  • Gabalafou Calculating status...
    I finally updated to Leopard. I figured that by waiting long enough, the bugs would be fixed before I installed, but--- like everyone else who uses the Dvorak layout I've got a slew of applications whose keyboard shortcuts no longer work. And it is absolutely maddening. I'm taking a class this semester that requires me to use Eclipse.

    When is Apple going to fix this? It's been months now since this problem was identified.
    MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5.6)
  • thbtty Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 21, 2009 11:22 AM (in response to rjonna)
    I'm hoping 10.5.7 fixes this as well.

    I just had to reinstall everything and updated only to 10.5.5, which solves it for now... but that means iLife '09 now refuses to install. So frustrating.
    Mac OS X (10.5.5)
  • OldGuyinCalifornia Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    *Come on Apple, WHEN will you get 10.5.7 out?* I did not like having to downgrade to 10.5.5 just so I could continue to use my existing applications with the DVORAK keyboard.

    I am not particularly interested in buying Snow Leopard to fix this (and you can bet I will wait until 10.6.1 or .2 and affirmative reports before I do).

    I know we are a "minority" community - users of the sanely designed Dvorak keyboard - but we are one you and Microsoft have supported for years. Don't dump on us now. Get out a fix, or get 10.5.7 out -- assuming that really does fix the problem.

    I've been using Macs for almost a quarter century. Please fix this.
    MacBook 2.4GHz, early 2008, Mac OS X (10.5.5), Have other Macs in house as well
  • JaeCee Calculating status...
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    May 4, 2009 3:11 PM (in response to masto)
    I'd love to be able to use iClip again normally.

    This is frustrating as ****.
    PowerMac G5, Mac OS X (10.4.6)
  • sudo work Calculating status...
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    May 12, 2009 3:25 PM (in response to masto)
    Finally fixed with this 10.5.7 update
    Macbook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.6)
  • The Aphorist Calculating status...
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    May 13, 2009 10:47 AM (in response to sudo work)
    Confirmed for Eclipse. What a relief!
    MBP, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
  • LEgregius Calculating status...
    I also tested it. It is certainly working properly for me too. It's about time. I starting to look at trying to get my hands on a beta 10.5.7 because it was making me crazy.
    MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
  • OldGuyinCalifornia Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 16, 2009 6:55 PM (in response to OldGuyinCalifornia)
    YES! It is nice to be able to run the current version of OS X again, and have the benefit of security updates, and a new battery fix for MacBooks that required 10.5.6 to install.

    10.5.7 puts the Dvorak keyboard back to where it had been before. Usable with Office 2003.
    MacBook 2.4GHz, early 2008, Mac OS X (10.5.7), Have other Macs in house as well
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