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Column breaks not laying out sensibly; is it me?

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Jay Batson Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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May 20, 2009 8:03 PM
Hi - I need help with a Keynote '09 multi-column layout issue here. I hope somebody has an answer. Maybe it's me, but....

I've set the text area in a slide to be 2-column (via the Inspector). I've got 2 full columns worth of text. But the way Keynote is laying my text out across the columns has a 2nd-level bullet at the top of the 2nd column - right before a first-level bullet (e.g. the first-level bullet is the 2nd line in the 2nd column.)

So I set the insertion cursor at the beginning of the first-level bullet in the 2nd column, and selected Insert > Column Break.

But while Keynote (correctly) moves the sub-bullet to the first column, Keynote leaves a blank line at the top of the 2nd column, e.g. the first-level bullet in the 2nd column is NOT aligned at the top of the 2nd column.

I undid that, and tried putting the insertion cursor at the "end" of the 2nd-level bullet that is at the top of the 2nd column. This again (correctly) moves the sub-bullet over the the first column, but (still) leaves a blank line at the top of the 2nd column. (This time, it's set as a second-level bullet, vs. a first level bullet as in the first attempt.)

Here's a screen capture of the problem (e.g. before inserting column break):
http://skitch.com/batsonjay/btdic/pre-column-break-insert

Here's a screen capture after inserting the column break:
http://skitch.com/batsonjay/btdi1/text

What am I doing wrong? How do I get the top-level bullet to be the first line in the 2nd column? Or is Keynote just too immature of a product to get this right yet? They support columns; you'd think they'd get this right.....

???

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MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
  • Jerrold Green1 Level 7 Level 7 (28,295 points)
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    May 21, 2009 8:03 AM (in response to Jay Batson)
    Jay,

    It looks to me as though your text is set to bottom-justify. Look at your alignment settings in the Text Inspector, Text tab, Color and Alignment.

    Jerry
    iMac G5 2G RAM, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
  • Jerrold Green1 Level 7 Level 7 (28,295 points)
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    May 21, 2009 11:32 AM (in response to Jay Batson)
    Jay,

    If you grab the bottom handle of the text box and lengthen the text box by dragging the bottom edge down, does extra space develop at the top of the second column (Bottom-aligned) or at the bottom of the second column (Top-aligned)?

    Jerry
    iMac G5 2G RAM, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
  • Jerrold Green1 Level 7 Level 7 (28,295 points)
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    May 26, 2009 5:11 PM (in response to Jay Batson)
    Jay,

    Good job of identifying a malfunctioning feature and documenting the symptoms. When you report it to Apple using the Feedback menu item under File, you can reference this discussion. That's the best way to bring your issue to Apple's attention.

    For now, if I were you, I'd avoid using Insert > Column Break. You can probably get the widow and orphan control you seek by manually adjusting the Text Box size, changing the font size, line spacing, character spacing, etc.

    Good luck,

    Jerry
    iMac G5 2G RAM, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
  • Brie Fly Level 5 Level 5 (7,925 points)
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    May 26, 2009 7:07 PM (in response to Jay Batson)
    If the column break is inserted at the beginning of a 1st-level bullet that is "naturally" in the RIGHT column, Keynote inserts the undesirable blank line at the top of the 2nd column.


    I'm a little late to the party, but why would one want to put a column break at the beginning of a bullet that is already in the right-most column?
    24" iMac (Alum), Mac OS X (10.5.6)

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