7 Replies Latest reply: Jun 3, 2009 11:46 AM by micronauta
yeloop Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
Hi Guys

Not sure if anyone can help, but hopefully you can!

I have an iMac (2.4GHz, 4GB RAM) and use a Mackie ONYX 1220 combined interface and mixer. When I set everything up originally, I just plugged in the Mackie and it was ready to go! I didn't install any Mackie drivers, 'cos it just worked straight away.

I'm having a few latency issues and can only get down to a buffer of 128 without getting popping and clicking.

I saw on another post on this site that the "quality of the drivers for the audio interface" can affect latency quite significantly.

Does anyone know if there are specific Mackie drivers for a Mac, for the ONYX series? Has anyone tried them? Would they give a better response than core audio in terms of latency etc?

I'm hoping that the answer is "yes, there are Mackie-made drivers, and they will give way better performance"...

... but if I'm dreaming, that's OK!


Any feedback would be very welcome!

Thanks heaps!
Mike

iMac 2.4GHz + 4GB RAM + Mackie ONYX 1220, Mac OS X (10.5.6), (Logic Pro 8.0.2 + Yamaha S90 + Korg Triton Extreme + Roland TD12 V-Drums)
  • 1. Re: Getting better performance out of my Mackie ONYX 1220 FW interface / mixer?
    fermusic Level 4 Level 4 (1,130 points)
    yeloop wrote:
    I'm having a few latency issues and can only get down to a buffer of 128 without getting popping and clicking.


    Live Software monitoring latency perception in Logic is not cause only by change the Sample buffer Size.
    I don't have Latency and I use 256 buffer size... 'cause 6 or 7 msec of latency would not be a problem for any musician (in Live Stage there is alot of Latency caused by Cables, Mixers, PA system and stage Monitors)

    Latancy is related also woth Buffer Process Settings ("Small", Medium", and Large")

    The buffer proccess setting is connected with PDC setting...
    so if you set as "off" or Audio and Software Instrument Tracks" i will get Latency reduction without change the primary Logic buffer settings.

    G
  • 2. Re: Getting better performance out of my Mackie ONYX 1220 FW interface / mi
    musicspirit Level 2 Level 2 (495 points)
    I recently bought exactly what you have and have had nothing but problems with it - apparently there is a lot of talk on 'the forums' about issues of compatibility between the 1220 and Mac.

    My issue is that the audio keeps disappearing - ie you just suddenly get none of the audio tracks playing and you have to reboot the whole system to get the audio back.

    This happens periodically for no reason at all .. and then works for a while

    I havent noticed any latency issues but then I have only been using my system for recording odd overdubs .. I dare not try a major project on it yet

    * * *

    Am very interested in any feedback on the Mackie ONYX 1220 in use with Logic Pro


    PS - just re-read your question about drivers - sorry my info is so vague because it was an engineer friend who set up the whole thing for me.. I will try and post a more specific link about the drivers and discussion of it. I am not aware that Mackie has specific drivers for this... but because this model is quite old ( about 2004/2006) I think that Mac developments superceded their drivers and hence the problem

    By the way am using Core Audio ...

    Message was edited by: musicspirit
  • 3. Re: Getting better performance out of my Mackie ONYX 1220 FW interface / mi
    Pancenter Level 5 Level 5 (7,640 points)
    musicspirit wrote:
    I recently bought exactly what you have and have had nothing but problems with it - apparently there is a lot of talk on 'the forums' about issues of compatibility between the 1220 and Mac.


    There's a lot of compatibility issues with almost -any- Firewire interface that uses system compliant drivers on Intel based machines.

    I have a Presonus Firestudio project that's now working pretty well with both Mac/PC, it uses custom drivers on both platforms. I also have a Presonus Inspire
    (4 in/out) that uses Apple system compliant drivers, it eventually chokes on an Intel Mac (garbled audio, clicks & pops) but seems to work ok on an older PPC G5 system. Generally, there's a lot more Firewire related problems on the Intel Macs. Apple moved away from Texas Instruments FW chips and began using a model designated "Agere" manufactured by Lucent. I don't know for certain that's the problem but somethings up with recent OSX software/hardware FW implementations.

    pancenter-
  • 4. Re: Getting better performance out of my Mackie ONYX 1220 FW interface / mi
    John Alcock Level 5 Level 5 (5,025 points)
    Pancenter wrote:
    Generally, there's a lot more Firewire related problems on the Intel Macs. Apple moved away from Texas Instruments FW chips and began using a model designated "Agere" manufactured by Lucent. I don't know for certain that's the problem but somethings up with recent OSX software/hardware FW implementations.


    I agree - I have had numerous problems with my MacPro and Leopard with firewire, but the same converters (Apogee) work perfectly on my G5 which continues to be my production machine. I recently bought an PCIe (Aaxeon) card with a T.I. chip for my MacPro and my problems disappeared immediately. I suspect that Leopards differences in AppleFWAudio extension is a contributing factor also. I also found exactly the same FW symptoms with a Focusrite interface.

    Edit: Not very helpful to the O.P. as I just noticed that an iMac is being used - sorry.
  • 5. Re: Getting better performance out of my Mackie ONYX 1220 FW interface / mi
    musicspirit Level 2 Level 2 (495 points)
    {quote:title=John Alcock wrote:}
    I recently bought an PCIe (Aaxeon) card with a T.I. chip for my MacPro and my problems disappeared immediately. I suspect that Leopards differences in AppleFWAudio extension is a contributing factor also. I also found exactly the same FW symptoms with a Focusrite interface.{quote}


    John, forgive my ignorance but is an 'Aaxeon Card with a T.I. chip' a Fire Wire Interface which would replace any other Audio Interface. Or is it a separate thing? ( And is it expensive.. ?
  • 6. Re: Getting better performance out of my Mackie ONYX 1220 FW interface / mi
    John Alcock Level 5 Level 5 (5,025 points)
    Or is it a separate thing?


    Hi M.S.

    It's a PCIe card with 2xFW 800 and 1xFW400 ports and it's about $60.
    Here's a link: http://bit.ly/Lufs0
  • 7. Re: Getting better performance out of my Mackie ONYX 1220 FW interface / mi
    micronauta Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hi. Has any of you nice chaps tried 10.5.7 yet?

    I was searching around casually to see if daisy chaining two Onyx Firewire devices is supported under the current OS X, and I came across info on the issue with Mackie Onyx devices and OS X on Intel.

    I just bought a unibody 15″ MBP to use it with my Mackie 1640, and I have an upcoming gig this friday. I lent my 1640 o a friend so I won't know until then if it works.

    There is a post by a canadian user which states things got better with Mac OS 10.5.7, but I have not found any confirmation of that yet: http://www.em411.com/show/blog/7325/1

    So I would like to ask, is this issue resolved with OS X 10.5.7? Or should I run out and get my PowerBook G4 back? Thanks.