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Schnblume Calculating status...
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Jun 23, 2009 3:24 PM
I am operating a Graphite iBook 466 MHz PowerPC G3 with 576 MB SDRAM using OS 10.4.11 and a maximum resolution of 800X600. When it was available I downloaded Safari 4 Beta and was happy with it. In the last week I received an automatic notice that new software was available (Safari 4). If there were cautions involving the resolutions I did not see them and I proceeded to download Safari 4. I immediately found that I had problems.

I trashed all Safari software that I could locate and attempted to load Safari 3.2.3Ti but every attempt was interrupted by a notice that “ You cannot install Safari on this volume. This Volume already has a newer version of Safari installed”

What must I do to successfully load an earlier version of Safari?
Graphite iBook 466Mhz, 576 SDRAM, Mac OS X (10.4.11), Also have 2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo iMac, Mac Book Pro 17" 2.16 GHz/1GB/SD/120GB
  • keats2010 Level 2 Level 2 (285 points)
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    Jun 23, 2009 3:36 PM (in response to Schnblume)
    If you don't have a bootable backup cloned then you are pretty much looking at an archive and install. Safari installations are more complex than just trashing the program and really intermingle with the OS code. So personally I would back everything up (a system backup now will do no good as you have already applied the update) and then reinstall the OS from your startup disks, apply system and security updates etc. but not update Safari past the last Safari v3 update. Your previous settings and applications etc. will be stored in a folder named 'Previous System'. There are posts step by step on how to do this if you do a quick search of this forum.
    Good Luck
    Powerbook 17", Mac OS X (10.5.7), wireless modem 1GB memory G4 120GB hard drive Safari 4
  • Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (43,425 points)
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    Jun 23, 2009 3:53 PM (in response to Schnblume)
    Just to supplement Keats' good advice:

    How to Archive & Install:
    20" 2.1GHz iSight iMac G5, 250GB HD, 1.5GB RAM, Mac OS X (10.5.7), iLife 9 and iMovie 6, Toast 7.1.3, iTunes 8.2, QTPro 7.6.2, Safari 4.0.1
  • RAmeeti Calculating status...
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    Jun 24, 2009 9:30 AM (in response to keats2010)
    It is NOT necessary to Archive and Install to get Safari 3 back.

    Download Safari 3.1.1 Update from Apple's Download page.

    Quit Safari.
    Delete Safari
    Delete the receipts file at /Library/Receipts/Safari4.0Tiger.pkg
    Empty Trash

    Mount Safari 3.1.1.dmg file
    Run Safari311UpdPPC.pkg
    Perform 'Upgrade'

    All is good with Safari 3.
    Too many to mention, Mac OS X (10.4.11), Mac and PC
  • T Powers Calculating status...
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    Jun 24, 2009 11:11 AM (in response to RAmeeti)
    So glad to hear that!!!

    Trying it as soon as I get home!
    eMac, Mac OS X (10.4.10), 1.25ghz; 1gb RAM; superdrive
  • Tibetan Calculating status...
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    Jul 2, 2009 4:43 PM (in response to Schnblume)
    does this really work? sounds to good to be true.

    for the last 2 weeks everyone and all of the supposedly holier than thou apple forum tech geeks said no way - not this easy.

    they said that the update changes a whole lot more behind the workings of safari and going to safari 3 again can't be done due to all of this under the changes that were made.

    I hat e to do this and then I'd have to redo my entire system again and spend 3 days or more doing so.

    thanks for any comments. I may have to bite the bullet and live with 4 - YECH!!!!!!!! what a piece of sh&t!

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  • longtimemacuser666 Calculating status...
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    Jul 2, 2009 4:48 PM (in response to Tibetan)
    The aforementioned procedure (the one that claims you do not need to reinstall the OS) did NOT work for me - that left me with no usable version of Safari installed, and nothing I could do would make Safari 3 install - I got the exact same message you're getting ("Safari 3 can not be installed on this volume because a newer version is already installed").

    I did an Archive & Install as described in the link above. That was a lot less hassle than I thought it would be. Took about an hour, everything else remained perfectly functional (even my bookmarks are intact), and now I'm back using Safari 3 (happily).
    Mac OS X (10.5.7)
  • sitspotsit Level 3 Level 3 (780 points)
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    Jul 2, 2009 6:25 PM (in response to longtimemacuser666)
    If you try to reinstall a prior version of Safari the wrong way, it won't work. The posted directions referred to Mac OS X 10.4, so if you downloaded that, you got a version for Tiger, so of course you shouldn't expect it to install on a sysem running Mac OS X 10.5.

    All you needed to do is download the right version for your OS and install it after deleting Safari and it's Receipt in the corresponding folder. It works for me, so there's no reason it wouldn't work for you unless you didn't follow the proper procedure.
    Mac OS X (10.4.11)
  • hanne333 Calculating status...
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    Jul 2, 2009 6:49 PM (in response to RAmeeti)
    hi Rameet

    I do not seem to have the /Library/receipts/safari4.0Tiger.pkg
    I wanted to reinstall version 3.2.3 which was for tiger.

    However I will give it one more try.
    mac book pro, Mac OS X (10.4.11), 24gig ram, dual proc233
  • hanne333 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    Jul 2, 2009 6:59 PM (in response to Schnblume)
    Thanks, I will try the 3.1 instead. And I found the Library file. was looking at the wrong library
    mac book pro, Mac OS X (10.4.11), 24gig ram, dual proc233
  • Tibetan Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    Jul 4, 2009 4:41 AM (in response to hanne333)
    Ok - I am running 10.4.11 on intel and a ppc powerbook.

    Quit Safari.
    Delete Safari
    Delete the receipts file at /Library/Receipts/Safari4.0Tiger.pkg
    Empty Trash

    I guess ii understand this so far and have found the receipts folder in the main HD area.

    Mount Safari 3.1.1.dmg file

    stupid ? - how do you mount this? I usually just click on the icon or the package and click again and it auto loads/installs...

    Run Safari311UpdPPC.pkg

    how - what do you mean? also I see ppc in there - is there an intel in there too for the macbook pro I have?

    Perform 'Upgrade'

    again - how do you upgrade?

    thank you in advance for all of your help - I just do not want to screw this up...
  • Allan Eckert Level 8 Level 8 (39,485 points)
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    Jul 4, 2009 6:22 AM (in response to Tibetan)
    Hi Tibetan;

    Adding your question to the bottom of a thread that is marked as solved is not the best way to get it noticed. I suggest you start you own thread.

    MacBook Pro, PowerMac G5 Quad. iPhone, Mac OS X (10.5.7), 7800 GT, 6.5 GB RAM, 440 GB, Nikon N80, D70 and D300 Nikon Coolscan 5000ED
  • David Cun Calculating status...
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    Jul 18, 2009 2:35 PM (in response to Allan Eckert)
    Add me to the list of those for whom 'RAmeeti's' suggestion worked.

    I wasn't experiencing crashes, but, S.4 was slow for me. I also had the problem of some web pages ( momentarily loading and then going to a blank page.

    All was well and 3.1.1 does indeed seem faster than 4.0.2. HOWEVER, '' has begun acting up again; going to a blank page after almost loading. Just not as consistently as with v4.

    But, reverting can be done without an A&I.
    G4 500, Mac OS X (10.4.11), 700mhz upgrade; 1G; Geforce FX5200; Acard 6280; NEC 3540A
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