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Canon HF100

1290 Views 6 Replies Latest reply: Jul 19, 2009 10:54 PM by Karsten Schlüter RSS
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Jul 17, 2009 5:12 AM
Hello, I have recently bought the new 13" Macbook 2.13Ghz which came pre-installed with the latest update of iMovie 2009.

I really want to use it to help with making great quality home movies which can be later burned onto DVD.

I haven't got a camcorder yet, and I'm just doing some research, but I am maybe looking at buying the Canon HF100 - it seems to have gotten a lot of great reviews.

So my question is, does anyone have any experiences with this camera working in conjunction with iMovie. I have heard lots of stories about large import times, and automatic conversions / descaling from 1080 HD to Apple's Intermediate Codec.....and then if I wanted to eventually burn to DVD after editing, another inevitable descaling down to DVD quality. I don't mind DVD quality as I haven't got BlueRay or anything, but how would all these conversion affect the quality in respect of unwanted artefacts?

Basically, I suppose I'm asking, how do you find your experiences with using a Canon HF100 with iMovie 2009?

Thanks!
Macbook 2.13gHz, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
  • Karsten Schlüter Level 7 Level 7 (29,440 points)
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    Jul 17, 2009 5:26 AM (in response to peachy_keen)
    it looks like, the hf00 will be my next camcorder.. just to mention that.

    .. I have heard lots of stories about large import times, and automatic conversions / descaling from 1080 HD to Apple's Intermediate Codec.....and then if I wanted to eventually burn to DVD after editing, another inevitable descaling down to DVD quality. I don't mind DVD quality as I haven't got BlueRay or anything, but how would all these conversion affect the quality in respect of unwanted artefacts?


    no stories, facts:
    AVCHD isn't natively editable. (allthough, some brave souls on the Windows platform do...)
    so, an intermediate codec is essentiell. Apple has two, AIC and ProRes (=only FCP users, a pro codec with an extreme bitrate, no consumer use).
    AIC doesn't drop any quality.
    iDVD creates standard conform video DVDs, which have PAL/NTSC res => a downsampling is necessary: from 1920x1080 to 768x576 (PAL), or 720x480 (NTSC).

    best practice would be, to export the AIC encoded project direct into iDVD. unfortunately, the MediaBrowser of iLife uses h264.. here, the story begins: some people complain loss of quality camera>>iMovie>>iDVD, in regards of artifacts, stutter.. actually, I can not follow this discussion.. the few samples of AVCHD I have access to look superb on DVD...-

    you have the 'manual' option, to Export using QT/and choose the 'native' codec AIC as export option.. creates huge files, you an drop into iDVD (=cares for length, never of size of files), and alter erase these intermediates...- as said, I don't see any diff. in terms of quality using this workflow or the Apple intended one.

    last word: iM allows storage of the raw data/AVCHD files. so, if in any future version of iM a better quality is accomplished or, even better, creation of BR disks is supported, you can strat from scratch..
    MacMini 1.66/1.25GB/QT7.5/iLife09 + iMHD6 + FCE4, Mac OS X (10.5.5), k.schluter@mac.com
  • Polly Smith-Blackwell Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
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    Jul 18, 2009 7:25 AM (in response to Karsten Schlüter)
    How do you get the files onto the Mac to begin with? I have tried the USB connection but the computer doesn't see the camera. I have tried going from the card but the files are UNIX files. What am I missing here? I was hoping to work with iMovie but will go with FCE if necessary.

    thanks
    MacPro Quad core, Mac OS X (10.5.6)
  • Karsten Schlüter Level 7 Level 7 (29,440 points)
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    Jul 18, 2009 9:57 PM (in response to Polly Smith-Blackwell)
    Polly Smith-Blackwell wrote:
    How do you get the files onto the Mac to begin with? .. What am I missing here? ...


    http://www.apple.com/findouthow/movies/
    does this help?
    MacMini 1.66/1.25GB/QT7.5/iLife09 + iMHD6 + FCE4, Mac OS X (10.5.5), k.schluter@mac.com
  • Snook Calculating status...
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    Jul 19, 2009 6:20 AM (in response to peachy_keen)
    I have the Canon HF S100 which is basically the same thing. I love the camera. Im still playing with it, trying to find the best settings. It works great with iMovie09. I have a card reader so I'll pop in my 16GB SD card and iMovie sees it right away.
    I havent burned any DVD's yet. I usually put all my videos on Vimeo or youtube. Dont hesitate, if your planning on using iMovie09 this camera is the one for it.
    MAC MINI, 1 TB MiniStack v3, iPhone 3G, Powerbook G4 17in ,Canon HF S100, Mac OS X (10.5.2), 2Ghz, 4 GB DDR 3
  • Rach-a-roo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jul 19, 2009 6:39 PM (in response to Karsten Schlüter)
    Have you tried Final Cut Express 4? It says it can import AVCHD directly and easily edit.
    Windows XP, MacPro
  • Karsten Schlüter Level 7 Level 7 (29,440 points)
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    Jul 19, 2009 10:54 PM (in response to Rach-a-roo)
    Rach-a-roo wrote:
    Have you tried Final Cut Express 4? It says it can import AVCHD directly and easily edit.


    FCE4 converts AVCHD on Import automatically into AIC.. same as iMovie08/09..

    there's no 'native' AVCHD editor on the MacOs platform..
    MacMini 1.66/1.25GB/QT7.5/iLife09 + iMHD6 + FCE4, Mac OS X (10.5.5), k.schluter@mac.com

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