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GUITAR HEADZ.do these L9 guitar cabs sound to you?..sound crazy good to me

4150 Views 26 Replies Latest reply: Jul 28, 2009 7:47 AM by Ed91 RSS
  • deltonfoster Level 2 Level 2 (230 points)
    I thought I remember reading that somewhere, maybe I am wrong... I ended up going to bed, but as soon as I finish this gig I will get back to testing.
    Mac Pro 2x2.8GHz Quad-Core/4GB RAM, Powerbook G4 1.67/2GB RAM, Macbook 2.2GHz, Mac OS X (10.5.7), Logic7/8, Apogee Ensemble/Duet, JBL LSR4328, UAD-2, Sytek MPX-4A, Audio Wizardry
  • Myron MD Calculating status...
    There is a Bass modeler, but it's the same one from L8.

    However, I did rum my Fender J through the blackface amp preset. It sounded pretty cool. It depends on the sound you're going for, but "tools are tools." Use them for what you need!
    2.5 Mac Book Pro
  • AndrewCapon Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
    Well for me the new amps actually sound better that Guitar Rig, I put them up with Waves GTR.

    Defiantly very usable.
    MacPro and MacBookPro, Mac OS X (10.5.2)
  • sam squarewave Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)
    I'm loving the guitar plugins. Splitting effects left and right in the pedalboard is really cool. Definitely sound better than my POD 2.0.
    G5 D2.0 / MBP Uni, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
  • Jim Frazier Level 5 Level 5 (5,325 points)
    The thing to watch out for with ALL modeling amps, is the 2 dimensional quality that rears its ugly head when 2 or more guitars are processed with them.

    Almost all amp modelers sound great and acceptable with one guitar... try mixing a song with 2, 3, or more guitars recorded/processed this way. It's an exercise in futility...

    That being said, I'm anxious to test this myself... Logic 9 becomes available here tomorrow, as I'm told by my rep. A copy is being sent to me then...

    I'll post back thoughts after I have had time to test this...
    3.0 8 Core Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.6), 4 Gigs of RAM-Logic 8.02 -Apogee Symphony/Rosetta 800/Lavry 4496 converters/
  • Bee Jay Level 6 Level 6 (10,895 points)
    I would be interested in your opinions Jim, as a seasoned string-basher

    I've only briefly played with them (and my guitar playing *****). So far, I'm ambivalent - I've found it easier to get sounds I like in Guitar Rig, I'm not normally into all those typical/classic tones so much - when I get some time I'll fiddle around and see whether I can knock up some sounds to my taste, and then be able to make a better opinion...

    I did think some of the pedal-board stuff was nicer than I expected - love the reverse tape delay...
    Rosebook Pro, Logic Studio 2.0, SD3, AMT8, MCU, LCXmu, Keymap, Mac OS X (10.5.7), I Want My PDF..!
  • AndrewCapon Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
    Hi Jim,

    Not quite sure what you mean by the 2D quality, could you elucidate on problems you have mixing different simulated guitar tracks?

    Cheers

    Andy
    MacPro and MacBookPro, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
  • deltonfoster Level 2 Level 2 (230 points)
    Hmmm, I do a lot of guitar layering, I will keep that in mind if I record multiple guitars with it. Usually the guitars sit so nicely in the mix... I don't want to lose that...

    Thanks Jim!
    Mac Pro 2x2.8GHz Quad-Core/4GB RAM, Powerbook G4 1.67/2GB RAM, Macbook 2.2GHz, Mac OS X (10.5.7), Logic7/8, Apogee Ensemble/Duet, JBL LSR4328, UAD-2, Sytek MPX-4A, Audio Wizardry
  • Diamond Dog Level 2 Level 2 (190 points)
    @Jim:
    while I agree, I developed some workarounds for this. For last two-three years I am using plugins and/or VOX TonelabSE. I have Line6 stuff too, but never use it. What you wrote about mixing single/more guitar tracks "reamped" only with plugins is quite true, but I really found out, that when I mix different plugins, it is not that bad. I may take (one or two) favourite sounds from Guitar Rig3 or Amplitubes, my main plugin for "reamping" is probably Softube's Vintage Amp Room and Metal Amp Room, than I am using Impulse responses of various cabinets (so I may use only Amp feature of a plugin or Vox TonelabSE) and this way I am really close as if I work with "real stuff".
    Well - obviously I am not, but satisfaction of guitarplayers IS real. And that is the deal

    I am also really interested about new Logic amp plugin, I'd like to hear your comments

    cheers.
    Mark

    PS - When I am really ****** off with the sssssicknessss of the plugin sound, I use tube comp/EQ and 456 tape (mostly) to smooth it a bit or more. If nothing else, this helps always

    Message was edited by: Diamond Dog
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  • BC Productions Calculating status...
    Ahhh - hope springs eternal. I have most of of the software amp modelers. I'd really like to find one (two?) that really sound great but they don't.

    I was excited about the new amp modeling in LS9 but after using it, I'm under-whelmed. It certainly looks great and I love idea of being able to move the virtual mic around the speaker etc. The pedal board is a cool idea but the sounds aren't thrilling me.

    I'm not happy with mic'ing up my real amps (as I don't have a kick-*** studio with a killer mic locker) but I do. I also use a Palmer speaker simulator and an Axetrak recording cabinet - all of which sound much better, to my ear, than any virtual amp or modeler that I've tried.

    They all have their strengths and weaknesses but I haven't found one yet that really works for me. I've heard great-sounding tracks all done using modelers or amp sims (allegedly) so I can only assume it's possible.

    I'd love to hear examples of great-sounding guitar tracks produced with LS9 amp simulations.
    Mac Pro Quad 2.66, Mac OS X (10.5.6), 8gb RAM, 1TB+ HD, Apogee Duet, UAD1, Yamaha HS80M
  • noeqplease Level 4 Level 4 (3,580 points)
    Jim Frazier wrote:
    The thing to watch out for with ALL modeling amps, is the 2 dimensional quality that rears its ugly head when 2 or more guitars are processed with them.

    Almost all amp modelers sound great and acceptable with one guitar... try mixing a song with 2, 3, or more guitars recorded/processed this way. It's an exercise in futility...

    That being said, I'm anxious to test this myself... Logic 9 becomes available here tomorrow, as I'm told by my rep. A copy is being sent to me then...

    I'll post back thoughts after I have had time to test this...


    And that is when you break out the guitar collection.

    I own 11 guitars...an 3 basses...
    When you can take the pebble from my hand, it will be time for you to leave., Mac OS X (10.5.5), Diamond-Encrusted Plug ins
  • Ed91 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    I've got to say I'm pleasantly surprised. I've always been skeptical about the sound of amp modeling software ever since buying a Behringer rack mount modeler a few years ago which I found delivered horribly one dimensional tones in the high gain department.

    However, after having a short play with Logic's new plugins I've managed to find one of the sweetest, creamiest hi-gain tones I've ever played with that sits beautifully in the mix. Obviously, it's still early days, but so far I'm pretty impressed..
    Mac Pro 8x2.8, 6GB RAM; MacBook Pro 2.2 C2D, 4GB RAM, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
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