This is why the headphone jack is small:

Agreed, however if your going to follow through with the aforementioned design, at least have the common courtesy to include a free adapter to allow all other headphones to work.

My biggest gripe is that when people spend $500-$600 on a cell phone, they don't expect to need to purchase a $10 adapter just to get their old headphones (which worked on all previous/cheaper iPods)

It comes across as a bad attempt to nickel and dime your most diehard customers. (**ahem airport extreme enabler**)

Dawho,

I disagree that it would have taken that much. I have one of the tape adapters, I do not remember the brand, and a pair of sony headphones, the ~$60 ones, and the headphones fit barely, but do not lock in real well. However the tape adapter requires a bit of force to make work, of course that will not work rolling down the road. It would have taken an opening 1-2 mm larger to accomodate standard jack sizes. Also there is no reason I can see that it could not have been flush with the outside of the case and still maintained everything. Heck the switch for vibrate mode and the ring volume control both extend beyond the edge of the case, oh yeah and so does the sleep switch. Oh, and why was it you felt it necessary to create your own thread to tout Apple's Design expertise? That last comment has nothing to do with what I think of Apple by the way. I think the overall design is great, but some tweeks here and there in the software and this headphone jack thing are definitely in order.

is it 2.5mm or 3.5mm?

3.5mm is the same size as most 'mini' trs (tip ring sleeve) connectors for wired portable headphone devices.

2.5mm is very common (standard?) for cell phone headsets.

I disagree. The jack size is the same as all headphones. The only problem is how far it is inset into the metal cowling around the top of the phone. If it could have been brought up just one mm all my headphones would fit. It's the case that gets in the way, not the size of the jack itself.

The hole in the top of the case could have been made about a mm bigger around and then everything would have fit too. I'm tempted to take the drill press to the case to try to make it a little bigger;) Probably wont get around to that too soon though...

Ummm before you do that you might wanna check out iFixit's opening of the iPhone. Specifically this image:

http://stream.ifixit.com/Parts/images/stream/images_large/9-21.jpg

I don't think a drill press wouldn't help you out. Why not just take an exacto knife to your headphone jack and strip off a little of the pastic? I'd rather do that than mar the iPhone!

heh, I said I FELT like taking a drill press to it 😉 More out of frustration than anything else. If they were going to raise it up, only about a mm would be needed. But yes, you're right if they leave it where it is they would need to widen the hole quite a bit.

When we get into our common courtesy phase perhaps we should consider that Apple did provide a working solution with their own ear buds. Granted, it may not be the solution you would have preferred - but nonetheless, it is a solution.

iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.5)

I know I'm new to the forums - but the fix I used worked (originally suggested in one of the other headphone posts)

The headphone jack IS the same size as a normal jack - just deeper.

Using a knife, shave off 1/2 cm or so off of the end of the headphone/adapter you want to plug-in to the headphone jack.

I have an adapter I use in the car (aux in/out) and Sony MDR headphones -> and they both work now.

No risk of cutting the headphone/adapter wires because they have metal underneath the rubber that you are cutting off.

Now if I could only get Outlook sync to work consistently

You guys are ridiculous. Anyone who is buying an iPhone and is crying about having to buy a headphone adapter is just crying and complaining. Use your iPod earbuds or get a life. I am not going to be hooking up anything really significant to listen to music on my iPhone the standard buds that come with it or fine. I you want to whine just buy the adapter. If you can afford it just email me and I will send you ten dollars.

have you seen the adapter? That thing is like 2" long. It's a valid complaint too because apple could have easily made the jack flush with the top of the phone. I'm not broke but can u send me $10.

Btw I just wrote this on my iPhone... Fresh.

Because of the need for a microphone, the only time that I would use any other headphones than my Motorola HT820 Bluetooth stereo headphones, is when I am on a plane, with the phone in Airplane Safe mode, when I would use my active noise canceling Phillips headphones. The plug for that headset didn't fit, at first. But, a few seconds with a fine file, to slightly reduce the diameter of the plug and I was back on the air.

The real problem is the lack of Bluetooth stereo support. I had to revert to my iMuffs MA110 Bluetooth dock adaptor, in order to be able to use my Bluetooth stereo headphones. Fortunately, the MA110 is small enough to be unobtrusive.

See image: http://actionamerica.org/images/iPhone-iMuffs.jpg

The iPhone is a phone primarily not an iPod. If you use the supplied Apple headphones and a call comes in, you can answer it with the mic/switch, finish the call and be on your way.

With other headphones, you would have to take the headphone off, unplug the headphones, and answer the call. After the call, you would plug the headphones back in, put them on and hit play.

Its a user friendly issue.