OS 9 driver question

You may be able to get the drivers onto the hard drive without erasing it. Boot to the OS 9 CD and run Drive Setup. Select the hard drive and choose Update Drivers from the menu. If that doesn't work, then you'll have to erase the drive and install the OS 9 drivers as you install OS 9. Then install OS X.

John, try this first, insert the OS 9.1 CD and after it mounts, drag the Application Folder and the System Folder from the CD into you hard drive (Mac OS 10.2). It is really not needed in Classic, but Just to be sure you can now drag the Utilities Folder from the CD into the Application Folder (Mac OS 9). Reboot and see if you are prompted to activate Classic. If so download and install the OS 9.2.1 upgrade, restart, then the 9.2.2 upgrade and restart again.

Joe

Mac Pro 2.66 Ghz Mac OS X (10.4.10) Users (RAID 0), PM G4 (10.3.9, PM 6500 (10.2.8)

Here's another one you can try. Since you have a legal copy of OS 9, I don't think there'd be a problem with this.

Find a friend, coworker or anyone who has a newer Mac that came with OS X. On one of the gray disks that it came with, there's a copy of OS 9 ready to install and use as Classic without needing the disk drivers. On the disks that came with my G5, it was on the last disk as a installation package named "Additional Software".

It must be from a set of gray disks included with a Mac. The retail releases of OS X do not include OS 9.

John, I can not believe that there is no Application (Mac OS 9) folder in that CD, are you sure. I just tried it (exactly as I told you) on a separate partition and it worked just fine, I just booted into Classic from that partition.

Anyway, here is article on the gray disc that Kurt mention in the above. Remember do not Erase before you Restore.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42929

Joe

Mac Pro 2.66 Ghz Mac OS X (10.4.10) Users (RAID 0), PM G4 (10.3.9, PM 6500 (10.2.8)

John:

I suggest, first checking to see if OS 9 drivers are on your HDD. Go to Apple Menu > About this Mac > More Info > Hardware > ATA. In the second section go down about 12 lines and look for OS 9 drivers installed y/n.

If the drivers are not installed your best bet is to backup and reformat. You can do that either beginning with OS 9 or with OS X. For more specific directions, please post back and ask.

Good luck.

cornelius

Hi Joe,

John, I can not believe that there is no Application (Mac OS 9) folder in that CD, are you sure.

It's there, but the System Folder on a retail OS 9 disk is a very minimalist version, missing many components that third party applications would need to run. Porsche 944 Pilot would be better of finding a gray disk from someone to install OS 9 from.

All of this, Porsche 944 Pilot, is moot though if you want to be able to boot directly into OS 9. Then you have no choice than to erase the drive and then install OS 9 first from your CD so you can install the disk drivers.

Then you have no choice than to erase the drive and then install OS 9 first from your CD so you can install the disk drivers.

Unless, of course, OP reformats in OS X and installs OS 9 drivers in the process, install OS X, then install OS 9. It is as easily done either way.

Cheers.

cornelius

Hi cornelius,

Unless, of course, OP reformats in OS X and installs OS 9 drivers in the process, install OS X, then install OS 9.

Correct, if the person is using a set of gray disks that came with their Mac which include both OS X and 9. Retail copies of OS X will not have this option.

Another thing to check:

Are you trying to install OS9 onto a very large partition? I discovered recently that OS9 must be in a partition less than about 200MB. I was trying to install to a 235MB partition and got nowhere.

Porsche 944 Pilot:

Just booted into Jaguar, and you are right. It's not that easy to find out. Here's what I tried:
Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility
Select HDD (manufacturer ID)
Select Partition tab
Under Options Install Mac OS 9 Disk Drivers is greyed out but checked.

Now to the install beginning with OS 9.

This process will completely erase everything on your Hard Disk Drive. Be sure to Backup your User Folder and all third party apps you can't afford to lose
1. Boot from your OS 9 install CD holding down C key.
2. Go to Drive Setup and reformat your drive as Mac OS Extended (HFS+)
2. Reinstall OS 9
3. Update to 9.2.2: Mac OS 9: Available Updates
4. Update your firmware
5. Boot from the 10.2.x install CD 1
6. Go to Installer Menu and open Disk Utility
7. Install Mac OS X 10.2.x
8. Restart and Repair permissions (Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility)!
10. Download and apply the Mac OS X Update Combo 10.2.8
11. Restart and Repair permissions!
12. Run Software Update and apply all updates available
13. Repair Disk Permissions (Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility)!

Please post back with further questions or comments.

Good luck.

cornelius

Porsche 944 Pilot:

you indicate to go to Installer Menu and open Disk Utility. I install 10.2 from there?

Good question. I missed a step. When you open Disk Utility in the Installer menu
Go to the File menu (in DU) and repair OS 9 Permissions.
Then Quit Disk Utility.
Open the Installer and proceed with installation.

Sorry about that. Please post back with further questions, if necessary.

Good luck.

cornelius