Imported photos end up sideways - how do you rotate within iphone?

I have this problem too... Pictures imported from my iphone show up normally, until i try to upload them to the internet. then they spontaneously turn sideways. this only seems to happen with pictures taken in the portrait orientation.

You have to import them with the correct orientation - the iPhone does not have a photo editing feature.

I'm having the same problem. I import the photos using either Picasa2 or the Windows Scanner and Camera wizard and they show up properly in Picasa. They are shown in the library in portrait or landscape like they should be and even have the orientation in the EXIF data, but once they go through iTunes (I'm betting it has something to do with the "optimization" step) they lose that orientation data and all show up as landscape in the iPhone. There is nothing different that I can do when importing them into the PC. They are being copied over exactly as they are on the iPhone.

When you rotate a file in Picassa it doesn't actually rotate the picture, it simply makes a note in it's database that you want to view it in Picassa in the new orientation.

To alter the file itself you will need a program like PhotoShop, (if you have it check out "droplets" in the help) or do a Google search and you'll find plenty of small applications that "batch rotate JPEG files".

On a side note, you're using a DELL computer so I thought I would point out that image rotation is one of the cool new features built into Windows Vista. Right click on an image and choose the direction and it modifies the file.

Back to the iPhone, in a pinch you can take advantage of the fact that the orientation sensor won't work when the phone is flat - like it was lying on a table. While holding in the normal position you can rotate the phone until the phone/image are correct, then hold it flat and rotate so the picture is oriented correctly. I know it sounds confusing and certainly isn't a proper fix but if you play around with it you'll get what I am trying to say.

William.

"When you rotate a file in Picassa it doesn't actually rotate the picture"

This is not the issue. Picasa (at least in my case) is not being used to rotate the image. When you take a picture with the iPhone, the orientation data is stored in the EXIF data in the header of the file. Picasa reads this and displays the picture using the proper orientation. I have verified that the photos do in fact contain the orientation data in EXIF.
The problem occurs simply by transferring the photos off of the iPhone using any means (Scanner and Camera wizard, Picasa import, manually dragging them out of the iPhone from its icon in "My Computer") and then using iTunes to sync them back to the phone. It is not preserving the orientation, hence all photos transfer over as landscape format.

I have also taken these photos that were transferred off using the PC, moved them to a Mac and transferred them back using iPhoto. Doing this it preserves the orientation when put back on the phone, so clearly iTunes for Windows is not behaving properly.

I think you missed the part that my post was "in response to: kekman" who stated "but when they come into iPhone".

Anyway, I know that Picassa doesn't edit the EXIF data because if you accidentally delete a picture and replace it from backup Picassa will still know the correct orientation.

With what you said it appears that iTunes is stripping off the EXIF data completely. I can understand why they did this as the iPhone is a display device, not a storage device. Using the data to rotate the file first though would have made a lot more sense and you should post it in their suggestions forum.

You can get a Microsoft plugin here: (scroll down the right and find ImageResizer.exe)

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx


that will add resizing and rotating to the your right click menu.

William.

I apologize if I have hijacked the thread or if it seems that I have attempted to derail it in any way.

My issue is "when they come into iPhone" and appears to be the same issue that kekman is having. I have a large number of photos on my iPhone, with about half of them being in portrait orientation.
On the Macintosh platform, I can copy the photos off of the phone, put them in albums in iPhoto (which is not performing any actual rotation of the image other than for display), and sync the albums back to the phone with the pictures retaining their portrait or landscape orientation as they did in the camera roll.
On Windows, I copy the photos off the iPhone (either Picasa, Camera wizard, and I've even copied via ssh/scp), put them in folders (without editing the photos in any way), and sync the "albums" back to the phone using iTunes, but this time all photos show up as landscape.
I can't imagine that this was the intended behavior. Why have the iPhone store the orientation (which clearly both it and iPhoto are using to display it properly) if you're just going to ignore it when you sync albums? I really can't understand at all why iTunes would strip the EXIF data that the iPhone itself puts in the JPEG, from both a user and a developer standpoint. I shouldn't have to modify the photos just to get them to display properly as they did before I took them off the phone.

I guess I'm just frustrated that I can't take photos out of my camera roll using my PC and still have them display properly when I sync them back as albums. So I'm currently keeping them all on the phone in the camera roll and it's getting very cluttered.
It's irritating when you're trying to show off the nice expensive piece of kit to your coworkers and they keep asking why it insists on showing your pictures sideways and you have nothing to say other than "it's a bug" :-/

Ok, so now I've really hijacked this thread. I'll just leave it at that and hope for a fix from Apple (do the devs even read this?). Is there some kind of Apple bug reporting/tracking system similar to bugzilla, etc.?

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9. Rotating a picture could, optionally, be saved on the original
picture. I haven't come across a case where I would want preserve the
wrong orientation of a picture.

if your camera has a rotation sensor it should display in picasa the
correct way automatically, at the header of each folder is an option
that says 'save edits' if you hit it it will save all pics correctly
rotated in explorer. this is a new feature, if you don't have it try
updating by going to the site and downloading and installing (rather
than with the update button)

FROM THE GOOGLE PICASA FORUM

IT WORKS NOW ON MY IPHONE!!!

after I did the following...

9. Rotating a picture could, optionally, be saved on the original
picture. I haven't come across a case where I would want preserve the
wrong orientation of a picture.

if your camera has a rotation sensor it should display in picasa the
correct way automatically, at the header of each folder is an option
that says 'save edits' if you hit it it will save all pics correctly
rotated in explorer. this is a new feature, if you don't have it try
updating by going to the site and downloading and installing (rather
than with the update button)

FROM THE GOOGLE PICASA FORUM

Not to spoil everyones fun but I now have this problem with pictures I took WITH the iphone! I'm on a Mac and I use the Image Capture application to import the pictures on my Mac. Then I sync these photos BACK to the iPhone and they are ALL 90 degrees off! They looked fine when they were in the iPhone. Weird. I'd hate to have to "jpeg rotate" every picture I take with the iPhone. Other pictures from my Canon Digital Camera show up great.

Are you left handed ?
no offense, I'v had these issues
with iP, Ps,
and preview, even thumbnails* wont wright.
do you think that mite have an effect
Best, Mike.

I'm having the problem too: once photos are downloaded from the iPhone onto the Windows PC, they appear 90 degrees counterclockwise to what they should be.

Someone reported this as a glitch and provided a workaround in another thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=5018742#5018742

Oh jinks,

I never had this problem and now it seems to have
come out of nowhere, still on 1.02 just popped up weird?
tried the right left thing with preview appear correct in same
as downloaded
photos were taken with iPhone camera. jinks! help I have hundreds.
Thanks Mike

I discovered a cool trick; that you when you have a rotated image displayed, touch your finger to the screen (off to the side) and hold it there, and when you turn the iPhone, it doesn't auto-rotate. So you can view the image portrait or landscape. Sometimes you have to turn the iPhone first to let it rotate widescreen, then touch and hold your finger.
I use Photoshop Album, which seems to rotate pix in the organizer, but not the original file (which gets syched).
Certainly a lazy band-aid solution, but it works for me!