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error code -36

hallo, i have a little problem. i am copying some data from my 1 tb Western digital raid onto a 500gb western digital usb 2 external drive formatted as a ms-dos disk...i am copying around 180 gb of video data. around 120 gbs are sucessfully copied. but for some reason i have received the same error repeatedly...


finder could not complete the operation becuase some of the in "......" could not be used or written.(Error Code -36)


i have tried copying several differnt folders and i receive the same error everywhere i have tried, for this reason i find it very odd that all the data is messed up. is there something else i could try, or does anyone have a work around for such a problem...

thanks i appreciate the help,
aaron

macpro 2,6, Choose

Posted on Aug 8, 2007 5:18 AM

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Aug 8, 2007 5:58 AM in response to xtrmn8ngangl

This sounds like the same problem you'd encounter trying to get over 120 GB to transfer to a Mac OS 9 formatted hard disk:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86178

My suggestion therefore would be to format the hard drive for Mac OS X, and use http://www.mediafour.com/ Macdrive to read the drive on Windows machines or format the drive NTFS and use http://code.google.com/p/macfuse/ to have read/write access to it.

Mind you, only a Mac OS X formatted drive will with certainty be bootable on a Mac Pro.

Error -36 means Input/output error.

Aug 9, 2007 4:51 PM in response to xtrmn8ngangl

i've been having the same issue and have looked all over
the net and found no solutions. it would appear that the
finder is in some way broken. the transfers don't fail at
the same places when you retry. i did have some success
using the command line (cp -Rpv from to). this allowed
me to copy the files, however, they appeared on the
target drive as unix executables rather than quicktime
mov files and nothing i've tried has allowed them to play.
i've never had issues like this with either linux or windows
and would love a solution but in something like two solid
weeks of searching i haven't had any luck. there are posts
out there, mostly older, referring to this issue in regard
to samba shares as well as firewire drives. my experience
has included neither so it's apparently a broader problem
than that.

BabaG

Aug 10, 2007 10:11 AM in response to BabaG

i am now having another problem...i repartioned the disk to a mac os journled drive. and i tried to copy the files...as the files copied i downloaded a couple updates for my cpu. the updates finished well before the drive had finished copying, some time later i received another error notice, so i clicked ok in the error notice, then clicked restart on the update popup window. the computer restarted but oddly enough the drive now does not appear on the desktop. i have tried various starting combinations and usb ports but the drive isnot recognized anymore...does anyone have a suggestion for me...i would appreciate any help...thanks...

aaron

Aug 11, 2007 4:23 AM in response to a brody

the drive is a raid 0 set up with 2 western digital 500 gb drives. it is internal. i can try connecting it another way.

what i was able to do is open FCP and select my files in the media manager, i then copied the media to the external drive and then the other media individually and it seems to have worked. its a bit of a work around, but i have copied the data and accomplished my goal... but i nedd to look into the other option...

thanks for the help...
aaron

Aug 14, 2007 11:30 AM in response to xtrmn8ngangl

A couple of thoughts.

1) File size limits for FAT32 are 4GB. Any files larger than that will cause trouble.

2) Your RAID is a lot faster than a USB 2 external drive.

Try copying smaller amounts of files that you KNOW are smaller than 4GB.

Also, try only connecting the USB hard drive to the Mac and not the keyboard ports, which are not USB 2 unless you're using a new iMac. (unless you're already doing this)

Scott

Aug 14, 2007 9:41 PM in response to xtrmn8ngangl

I think you need to rule out problems on the destination drive before you get too involved with the RAID Volume.

As for getting it to mount, ask Disk Utility for more information about it.

When you say initialize, but do not explicitly ask for "Zero All Data" only the first about 1000 blocks, where the directory will be placed, are actually re-written. If you are getting I/O errors, you need to be certain that your destination drive is error-free, by initializing with "Zero all Data" option. This process will take several hours, and you cannot allow your Mac to go to sleep during the process.

When it completes, the drive will have substituted spare blocks for any that could not hold the test pattern without error, and your disk will be "factory fresh" again.

Then if you get errors, they are more likely to be caused by the source.

Aug 14, 2007 9:56 PM in response to xtrmn8ngangl

RAID 0 (striped) combines two drives into one logical Volume. It can have speed advantages in Writing -- by filling the write buffer on one drive, then filling the write buffer on the other drive.

If you are using two IDE/ATA drives, and have them both on the same cable, the write speed-up is small, and the read speed-up is non-existent. The IDE/ATA protocol allows NO overlapped I/O on a single cable. If you visit sites like MacGurus where folks are posting their RAID transfer speeds, the top speeds are when the two IDE/ATA drives are on two separate cables, or when they are SCSI drives (because SCSI controllers and drives do allow overlapped I/O).

These articles provide some more background:

106594- Mac OS X, Mac OS X Server: How to Use Apple-Supplied RAID Software

58636- Final Cut Pro: What Kind of Hard Drive Should I Buy?

Message was edited by: Grant Bennet-Alder

Aug 17, 2007 11:40 PM in response to xtrmn8ngangl

I've got a new MBP and a new WD Mybook 500GB USB 2.0 drive. I've also installed Boot Camp with XP Pro on the Mac (not the Mybook). The Mybook is FAT32 formatted.

Whenever I try to copy about 150 MB or more from the Macintosh HD, I get error 36. I can read just fine, I just can't copy more than 150 MB at a time, whether as a single file or multiple files.

If I boot into XP, the Mybook works perfectly. I can move or copy as much as I want. I've copied more than 100 GB in a single go. It works perfectly on several other XP machines to which I've connected it.

Disk Utility reports no errors.

Any thoughts?

Aug 27, 2007 10:22 AM in response to xtrmn8ngangl

hi i was having the same exact problem with my WD 500 gig drive. i tried a bunch of stuff but what finally work was so simple. i didnt reformat or anything! i took my drive to my pc to try to see if it would do the same thing there. i opened the properties and decided to defrag it and run the check disk on it. it took forever but it worked. now i can copy video files from my mac to my WD. give it a try. youve got nothing to lose!

good luck and hope this helps,
deedee ^_^

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