iMovie 08: from timeline to storyboard -a new paradigm!

Having spend a bit over an hour on a new iMac playing with iMovie 08, here are some first impressions -

Dazzling images, absolutely dazzling. It's hard to look past the sharpness,
clarity, just plain breathtaking 'look' of the images -- all HD, all in 16:9
widescreen format.

At the same time, impressed with the 'look' of the screen -- it was one of the
big iMacs, as it happened -- I was puzzled by the layout. I knew it wasn't
the 'old' iMovie; I'd seen the tutorials, read the manual, but it was still odd
to see it 'look' so different. I kept looking for the timeline, and there isn't
one. And for anybody who has spent any time with any movie editing program, the absence of a timeline is a jolt. Even as I played with the clips in the iMovie Project window, the one on the upper left, learning how to move them, re-arrange them (hint: select, then click and drag), learning how to trim them (hint: click on the little teeny icon on the bottom left of the frame, and a
trim window opens), it didn't drawn on me what Apple -- or the mysterious
engineer who went scuba diving and then was inspired to re-invent iMovie -- had done. I'm almost embarassed to admit, I'd been playing with the clips in the Project window for ten or fifteen mintues when it dawned on me!
They had change the paradigm!
No longer is iMovie based on the idea of a timeline. Now, with iMovie 08, the model is the storyboard.
Let me explain what I mean.
There are essentially two fundamental ways to organize your clips. One is the
time-honored 'timeline', in which you arrange your clips along a line, a
timeline, from left to right.
The other way to organize your story, now almost universally done, in
movies, in TV productions, in full length animations, is the 'story-board'.
With a 'story-board' approach, originally you created a series of sketches of
something representative of each scene, then you move them around until they told the story you want to tell. You could arrange them choronogically, from beginning to end; you could arrange them with an ending clip first, then
'flashback' to tell the story; you could arrange them in whatever order that best teold the story that you wanted to tell.
Once it hit me, that the essence of what Apple has done is change the paradigm, everything else began to fall into place.
Hal
PS: Scrubbing is now called 'skimming'. 😉

PowerMac G4, dual 800-MacBookPro, Mac OS X (10.4.10)

Posted on Aug 9, 2007 7:20 PM

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Aug 9, 2007 7:33 PM in response to Halle

Glad that you have iLife 08 and a Mac powerful enough to use the software!
Glad, too, that you didn't complain about how it was different from previous iMovie versions but understood the reason to rewrite and make a new application.
It really is a new shift and Apple employees must have been beside themselves when they gave to OK to chuck all the old for this new method of video editing.
When I get a new Mac I'll jump right in as that is how my mind thinks, anyway.

Aug 9, 2007 7:38 PM in response to Halle

Sorry, but you are losing the point. The point is that a timeline view gives you flexibility. For example, what if you want two audio timelines, one for voice and one for music? The way it is now you have to do it destructively. What if you want to do an effect? With '08 you can't.

I am not against the idea of a storyboard. But I am 100% against the idea of REMOVING well-understood features and replacing them with less powerful ones. The storyboard should have been an addon to iMovie, not the only way to do things.

Aug 9, 2007 11:54 PM in response to Halle

Totally agreed. It would seem people don't get it.

iMovie '08 is a far superior product to put together a movie quickly and share it with loved ones. I hate iMovie HD and FinalCut etc... they make sharing video I shot on my vacations etc a pain in the ***! They make it work. I work on my computer enough already. I just want to toss some clips in order add a title and push share and have it appear on my web gallery.

If I wanted to edit a video. Add sound effects. Special effects and credits I would be a video editor. I'm not and I have no desire to be one. If I did I'd go right out and buy final cut, a fancy keyboard, one of those video scrubber nobs and some books.

I'm really glad iMovie 08 is the way it is. It's also nice that they left 06 the way it was for those who still wanted it the old way too.

Message was edited by: sixcolours

Aug 10, 2007 12:46 AM in response to Halle

I'm also averse to all of the griping that is coming out of the Mac community about iMovie '08. Steve J stated from the getgo that this was a new program written from the ground up. We knew this from the beginning and were even allowed to browse through the video tutorials prior to purchase.

If that wasn't enough, they included a point release update of the '06 version for those that wanted the new features of the iLife package without having to sacrifice the apparent flexibility of iMovie '06. (They even foresaw the complaints from '06 users and archived '06 installs instead of overwriting them as every other iLife app does) You guys should see this flexibility as a strength and not as a weakness. If you like one use it, if you like the other, use that… seriously, is the concept that tough?

One of the rare situations where you get to have your cake and eat it too... I fail to see where some people have the nerve to actually complain.

I am coming at iMovie from a beginner’s perspective. I toyed with the old version for 10 minutes a year ago, but found the time investment was far too great for my basic needs. I bought iLife '08 in part because of the simplicity offered by the new iMovie. I think that people unaccustomed to the old ways will fall into place marvelously with the new program.

We all have the right and responsibility to make suggestions that would improve the software we buy and they make, but the amount of petty griping about this issue is getting pretty bad.

Aug 10, 2007 4:54 AM in response to MyPetNinja

As a long time user of iMovie -- for years I've led Special Interest Groups (SIGs) for iMovie/iLife -- I had for the last year or two noticed a disconcerting trend. More than a few of the members who came to the meetings had never even launched iMovie 6, for example. Or if they had, they'd taken one look, and closed it. I was astonished. Why, I asked?
'It looks too hard', was almost always the answer.
'Too hard? iMovie?', was my first reaction.
But think about it, think about the last two or three years of promos for iMovie that Apple ran in the Apple Stores theaters (well, my Apple Store has a theater:-). They were dazzling, lots of quick cuts, freeze frames, speed changes, bumpers, etc., etc., etc. Almost nobody in any of my SIGS, even the iMovie 'power users', ever tried anything quite like those examples, and I began to wonder: Are we forgetting what iMovie is all about? Who it's for?
I think that those same experiences, same questions occurred to Apple. And in re-thinking the problem, they decided quite consciously -- for better or worst -- to re-invent iMovie, to make it simple to create what they think the majority of their customers want, a video slideshow!
Whether that's what I want, or you want, is not the point. The point is, that is almost certainly what most people want.

Since for my personal videos, I use Final Cut Pro, I am planning a series of 'workshops' for my SIG's, which in essence will introduce those heavy duty iMovie users who miss some of the features not there in iMovie 08 into the wonders of Final Cut -- probably Express, for most of them. The idea is to take it a step at a time, and say in effect, 'You know how to import video using your old iMovie, well here's how easy it is with Final Cut; you know how to trim a clip/add a transitions/etc. in iMovie, well, here's how to do the same time, only better, with more control, in Final Cut Express.
My question is, if this idea appeals, I'd be most interested in suggestions on how to refine the concept. (And where, on what forum, this thread should be continued?)
Halle

Aug 10, 2007 5:06 AM in response to Halle

.. My question is, if this idea appeals, I'd be most interested in suggestions on how to refine the concept. (And where, on what forum, this thread should be continued?)..


last things first.. in the FCE section of this board, once in a while you see topics about 'switchers' .. (iM to FCE...)

... I started with the transition a while ago; aside the concepts of editing you can learn with a book without using any software, I have to confess, that my expertise in using iM makes me stumble while using FCE!

ok, an iM ≤6 user has seen a timeline before and has an idea about 'clips' ... but that's it. e.g. in iM, I did 'crop' the clips, and get used to it that a disolve 'eats' the total length of both clips involved. that is in FCE quite different (and in iM6 too...). the usage of tracks/layers needs some 'plan', or you get lost where to add a disolve or just a fade-out .. etc.pp.

what I like to say is:
methods of iM 'disturb' the learning process..
it is better, to start from the ground on... e.g. not import into one pane, but, disciplin!, name the clips, use different bins etc ...

just a word about your comment about the Apple-demos: indeed, all those MTV-style edited skaters & snowboarders reach a very small segment.. my Day-at-the-zoo movies have a very different pace ... 😉 more as the famous 'Dog Wash Day' demo, earlier versions of iM came with (and which is still avail at Steve's .mac page!) ...

Aug 10, 2007 5:09 AM in response to Halle

I was astonished. Why, I asked?
'It looks too hard', was almost always the answer.
'Too hard? iMovie?', was my first reaction.


Astonished yes, I would say so.

I'm [relatively] new to macs (< 1yr) and to video editing by I had iMovie HD6 down pat in pretty much one evening. It was very easy to get the hang of. For anyone to say that is a bit lazy, there are some finer points to it that you learn as you go along but you can get it in an hour or so IMO. Anyway ...

I haven't tried iMovie08 but will do when the time is right, but, what you are suggesting is exactly what Apple want to see from the general opinion on the these message board with ref: iM08 IMO. To push the more serious hobbiest to FCe while snaring the grandmothers and those who didn't research iM HD6 enough and went out and bought a HDD or DVD camcorder without knowing it wouldn't natively work with iM HD6.

I can understand their motive and there is always the cavaet that iM08 may come along post-Leopard (although that's complete conjecture on my part)

Please do let me know where you take your discussion, I'd be most interested to keep up with it. Thanks.

Luke

Aug 10, 2007 5:20 AM in response to Halle

"Since for my personal videos, I use Final Cut Pro, I am planning a series of 'workshops' for my SIG's, which in essence will introduce those heavy duty iMovie users who miss some of the features not there in iMovie 08 into the wonders of Final Cut -- probably Express, for most of them. The idea is to take it a step at a time, and say in effect, 'You know how to import video using your old iMovie, well here's how easy it is with Final Cut; you know how to trim a clip/add a transitions/etc. in iMovie, well, here's how to do the same time, only better, with more control, in Final Cut Express."




I attended a FCE learning session at an Apple store once and managed to get the first question in. Basically I asked "I know how to work in iMovie, can you show me the basic workflow of FCE?" In 20 minutes I knew how to do all the basics (importing, cutting, adding effects). This was the start I needed to get over the beginning learning curve. I've since taught myself more stuff but being shown the basic import -> edit -> output workflow saved me hours of frustration.

Aug 10, 2007 2:29 PM in response to QuickTimeKirk

<<Glad that you have iLife 08 and a Mac powerful enough to use the software!>>

While I'm pretty sure my MBPro would run iLIfe 08 just time, I actually used Apple's computers, a new iMac, at my local Apple Store; it had iLIfe on 08 installed.
I went back today for a ProCare session on iMovie 08, and found that with my previous hour, and having 'cheated' -- I printed out a copy of the manual:-) -- I was a bit ahead of the game in knowing how the new iM8 worked, and what its main features.
I do still have a question that we didn't answer with certainty. When iM8 creates a project, does it not use 'pointers' to the master video clips, as Final Cut does? Put another way, the 'old' iMovie kept all the files/video clips/etc. in a hidden folder, which could get huge, if you had a big project. It doesn't appear that iM8 works this way. It seems to put the video where you tell it, and creates in the User>Movie folder what amounts to a video library, which not only organizes your project, but also points back to the original video files.
Can someone help me better understand how this works?
Halle

Aug 10, 2007 2:44 PM in response to Eugenia-LQ

<<Sorry, but you are losing the point. The point is that a timeline view gives you flexibility. For example, what if you want two audio timelines, one for voice and one for music? The way it is now you have to do it destructively. What if you want to do an effect? With '08 you can't.>>

It's true that the timeline view is the time honored way to visualize a video project. Not only did iMovie do it that way, so did Premiere, Avid, then Final Cut. But Apple, after what had to be considerable thought, must have reasoned that for most people there had to be an easier way; and what they came up with was the 'storyboard' model. That coupled with some other innovations -- the default selections of only 4 seconds of any clips, the almost 'iPhoto-like slideshow' creation process -- suggests that the change was not for the iMovie 'power user', but for those who just want the simplest possible way to get a few clips together, with a title, a soundtrack, and get it to the web, or in an email.

<<I am not against the idea of a storyboard. But I am 100% against the idea of REMOVING well-understood features and replacing them with less powerful ones. The storyboard should have been an addon to iMovie, not the only way to do things.>>

In fairness, they didn't really remove any features -- in fact, they've just published a link to download iMovie 06, and all the features it had are still there. No, what they've done is re-invent iMovie (perhaps they might have called it something else), as an extraordinary simple, very elegant way to create a 'professional' looking home movie and share it with friends, family, and the even the world -- via You Tube. 🙂

Halle

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