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JLM222 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
I just bought iWork 08 so I could discontinue going to Windoz Vista to play pps files that people have sent me. I used the free power point viewer in Vista to view and HEAR these files. Everything worked fine there. But in Keynote the video plays ok, but without any audio. I can add my own music etc to the file, but that is not what I need. I need to hear the original audio that came with the pps file. What am I doing wrong here?????

I had the same problem when I was using the previous TRIAL version of iWork - that is why I did not BUY that version. So, did I waste another 83 dollars here?

2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, Mac OS X (10.4.10)
  • Brian Peat Level 6 Level 6 (18,215 points)
    try changing the .pps to a .ppt suffix and open it in Keynote. Look around on the slides and see if there's an audio icon on anything. Also, once you save the file as a .Key file, you can control-click on the file in the FInder and choose Show Package Contents. You'll likely find the audio file inside that package, even if it's not being used. Option-drag it out onto the desktop and you've got a usable copy of your audio file.
  • JLM222 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    For Brian Peat:

    I tried everything you told me to do, (never heard of saving to a .key file before) but it did allow me to look inside the files. Tried 5 different pps or ppt files and none of them showed up with an audio file - everything was jpg and tiff. No matter what I named them, they would play in Keynote, but no audio.

    I could go to Windoz Vista and open my Mac mail that had a pps file in it and I could open it there with Power Point Viewer and the file would play with AUDIO perfectly. So it looks like I wasted my money buying iWork 08 since I have no use for anything else in iWork.

    Oh, I did try to find out what was in the pps files I already had stored in Vista - guess I don't know how to do that either. Thought looking at "properties" of each file would show me - but it did not.

    Anyway Brian thanks for your suggestions - I did learn some things - but this is not the first time I wasted money and probably won't be the last!!!
  • Brian Peat Level 6 Level 6 (18,215 points)
    Are you positive that the audio files are embedded inside the pps files? If you're positive, it means for some reason, Keynote doesn't support audio inside a PPS/PPT file coming from Windows, which is a total drag.

    By the way, you didn't waste your money on iWork. Keynote rocks
  • David Firth Level 2 Level 2 (415 points)
    Check out the page at the URL lsited below. PPS audio won't play under certain circumstances that revolve around how the audio file was created and embedded into the PPS file. The poster in the link below jumped through some hoops to confirm their hypothesis. If you could extract the audio from the PPS file, the poster says that Quicktime happily plays the audio. See the page at:

    http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/30319539/why-no-sound-track-using.asp x
  • JLM222 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    For Brian and David: Checking the contents of just one pps file that has audio imbedded since the audio works in Vista shows 59 items. The majority of which are jpg; the rest are weird things like a folder named "contents" and inside of it is a file named "pkginfo" when opened shows ?????? in Text Edit. Another weird one is "index.apxl.gz"; this also opens with Text Edit a file named "index.apxl" which is huge - could not find an extractable audio file in there either. Two more folders, one named "QuickLook" which only has the first slide in it; last is a folder named "thumbs" which contains 57 items of tiff files.

    I went to the link that David posted. Things don't look promising. Looks like Bill Gates is almost as good as our Administration in hiding things.

    Thanks to both of your for your concern!!!
  • JLM222 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    One more thing, the link you gave me suggests that Apple does not support WAV audio files, so therefore we are screwed. My QT plug-in tells me that QT will play WAV. BUT that does not do us any good since QT will not play pps/ppt/or key slideshows.

    Looks like I will continue to open pps files in Vista using my free PowerPointViewer(PPV) - even how I got the PPV is strange. I could not download the exe file while in IE, I had to download it using Safari in Mac, then I mailed it to my e mail address I have in Windows Mail and I could install the program in Vista from there. No problems whatsoever.
  • Brian Peat Level 6 Level 6 (18,215 points)
    Wavs work fine on the Mac...my guess is they just didn't put that feature in Keynote, which seems strange to me, but then, there are a lot of little things that are still missing from Keynote and it's at version 4 now.

    By the way, that apxl file is the xml guts of a Keynote presentation, you won't find anything embedded inside it, it's simply a text file. If the pps file indeed had an embedded audio file in it, and the file doesn't show up in the keynote file, then my guess that it's not supported is likely true.

    Do you have a copy of PPT 2004 for mac you could attempt to open the pps file with and then resave it as a true mac file? No idea if it'll even help any, but it's worth a try.
  • DanMartin Level 2 Level 2 (465 points)
    This is what I do when I want to find the audio file in a pps:

    - change the pps to ppt
    - open it in PP and save it as web page on my desktop (it'll create a folder and an htm icon)
    - open the folder and the audio file will be there.
  • JLM222 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    I want to thank everyone for their suggestions. Besides the lack of audio, keynote does not do animations that appear in several of my pps files. So, I will continue to use my PPV in Vista to play these files. Also,nine out of ten files I have tried to open with Keynote show a warning that I do not have the right fonts installed.

    So, as far as I am concerned this thread should be closed at least until Apple fixes Keynote.
  • JLM222 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    My solution to the lack of audio while opening PPS files in Keynote is to run vista full screen, then play the PPS files with Microsofts Power Point Viewer. Which, BTW it works perfectly. I would rather use Apples Keynote, but if it does not do the job, then why even try.

    I am not saying Keynote was designed to replace PPV, but I think it was hyped as another option possibly to allow Apple users to create presentations, which I hear it does a very good job at that.

    After thought: Running vista ultimate full screen via Parallels version 3 does a really good job. You can run ALL Mac Applications right on top of Vista, and you don't have to concern yourself with "Sharing Folders" or wondering if your printer is going to work.
  • Brian Peat Level 6 Level 6 (18,215 points)
    Just so you know, in my years of running Keynoteuser.com and helping people with Keynote issues (through what is now 4 versions of Keynote) I've only ever seen this come up TWICE.

    So, while you may think Keynote isn't that great of an app, that particular feature certainly isn't a show stopper for the vast majority of users.

    This bit of your post is what confuses me "but I think it was hyped as another option possibly to allow Apple users to create presentations, which I hear it does a very good job at that."

    uh, it DOES allow Apple users to create presentations...pretty darn incredible ones at that. Why do you call that Hype?
  • JLM222 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    I guess I should have re-read my comments before hitting "post" but I didn't and I am sorry for that. I assumed that the "hype" about iWork was that it was a very good substitute for MSN's Power Point. Apparently from what I have read in these posts is that Keynote is very good at making presentations. However it is not good at viewing PP.

    I am not a fan of anything Microsoft, but if that is the only way to view PP files the way they should be viewed then what choice do I have? THIS QUESTION DOES NOT REQUIRE AN ANSWER!
  • Brian Peat Level 6 Level 6 (18,215 points)
    You do have a choice, it's called Office 2004 (soon to be Office 2008 in January). my guess is it'll support your PC ppt files just fine.
  • Tulse Level 5 Level 5 (5,790 points)
    Wouldn't NeoOffice or Open Office be a non-Microsoft option?
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