My iMovie 08 Review & Bullet Points (Positive News)

So much has been said about the lack of features in iMovie 08, that I thought I would generate my comments about it. After spending much time with both programs, none of them are quite right. But, fleshing out iMovie 08 would be the direction I would want to go. Believe it or not, after doing (3) clips in 08, this week, it was much tougher to go back to iMovieHD today.

I already know the differences between the two, so I am limiting this discussion to the strengths of what it can do.

Here are some of them:

1. Multiple layering of audio tracks is an outstanding feature:

Not only can they be multiple, but they can be stacked in order of sonic preference to the overall soundtrack. If you watch my clips, you will see why layering is important to me. And you can also split a sound track and change its volume. The interface makes layering audio far more like FCP, in that you see the progression of your layers as deep as you need them. You can trim the audio, change its overall level, and even split the audio tracks.

2. Hardware TRANSITIONS rendering on Intel macs:

No longer do you need to wait for 10-40 cross dissolves to render. It's instant the moment you drop it in the "view line". (My name for 08's timeline). You can drop any effect and it appears instantly. And, if you enable ADVANCED TOOLS in the iMovie08 preferences, you can modify any transition individually, rather than globally.

3. Hardware TITLES rendering on Intel macs:

This is a huge plus. You can change your titles layout on the fly. Change the text, review it, change it again till your heart's content. It's immediate. No more accidental deletion of titles overlaid on top of your video content.

4. Non destructive video clip editing:

This again is a big improvement. When advanced tools is activated under Preferences, you can actually tune both ends of any clip. Extend the beginning or extend the end. Even AFTER you've cut the clip and dropped it into your "View Line". What's more, the original clip is always there for you to use in the "Event" pane. You can use it several times in your project without copying and pasting it over and over again. This is one of the advantages of having a media browser.

5. Consistant media browser:

No more empty holes left in your clips pallet (iMovieHD) as you drop them in your timeline. No more scrolling to find what is still there. It is always there.

6. Direct Clip Trimming:

You can shorten AND lengthen a clip directly in your "View Line". The power part is the lengthen- because what if you JUST need a 1/2 second more of a clip? Just stretch it 1/2 second more and you are done. No more finding the original clip, re-editing it in the player, deleting the original from the timeline and dropping the new one in. Non destructive "View Line" editing is a big plus and time saver.

7. Direct Event Clips/Project Clips Editing:

While you drag the yellow border around your clip, you'll see the amount of seconds change on the right side of your clip. You can precisely control the amount of seconds you want in that clip-- AND where it starts and stops. Without going into a separate window to do it. Just press the SPACE bar to preview that trimmed clip alone. Happy with it? Drag that highlighted clip into your "View Line". Your editing length will be intact without cutting up the original which still remains in your events pane.

8. Single Interface/Single Mode Methodology:

Multiple EVENTS (clips imported) and MULTIPLE projects (movies that are in production) exist altogether in one interface. Power Feature: If I want to borrow a clip from ANOTHER project, I simply select that event from the Event library and drop it into my current project. This then, behaves quite a bit like Apple's own Aperture and iPhoto.

9. Keyword Video Clip Organization:

If I'm producing a nature video for sale (which I often do), I can keyword all my clips with tags like SNOW, STILL WATER, MOVING WATER, BIRDS, OCEANS, etc. I may just need that ONE chirping bird clip I took a year ago. I now can easily find it and drop it into my new project for testing. WOW!

10. Sorting and Rejecting Clips:

With large projects, you can get lost in the minutia. Now, I can simply tag "reject" on specific clips I don't want to look at. As well, I can tag a Favorite that I don't want to miss. On top of the keywording function, this makes iMovie08 a very powerful organizational tool.

11. Real Time Clip Scrubbing:

The ability to scrub across a single clip image to review its' contents is absolutely amazing. You can fine tune your content that way without opening up a player window each time. And you STILL can do that. This helps me plan the LAYOUT of my project without the commitment of editing first. A real time saver- and because all clips are non-destructive, you can re-edit a single clip at anytime without damaging your original project.

12. Advanced Color Correction with White Balance:

Now, you can shift your white balance after the fact on any individual clip. Just use the eye dropper tool to accomplish this. Better yet, have a grey card handy in the first 3 seconds of your shoot so that you have a white balance you can reference in post production.

I've talked about my experiences with iMovie 08 at length here. This is an entirely new platform- and I don't think of it as a light program or a beginner's program at all. In fact, it is quite sophisticated. There is room for allot of the functionality that was left behind, but that too will come.

Delve into the program itself, and you'll find that this is a serious upgrade to iMovieHD. Much of the features are yet to come, but this platform is simply amazing.

Clint

iMac 24", Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Posted on Aug 12, 2007 10:52 PM

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Aug 12, 2007 11:10 PM in response to Northwest Photos

Hi N

Yes and if all this had just been added to iMovie HD 6 basic structure this
storm would just yield applaues.

Never said iMovie 08 didn't have good tools - but without a TimeLine,
possibilities to extract sound or export (or out-put) to Camera (FW) it's
near useless though it isn't easy to do one part in iM08 and cont
with the rest in iM6 then jump back to iM08 and so on.

Every jump - drops transitions and some other work done in the previous.

One has to move over to FCE/P or keep iM HD 6 with it's Bugs and
coarch tools.

Yours Bengt W

Aug 12, 2007 11:41 PM in response to Northwest Photos

These two links here compare how the real estate is managed on the screen between the two programs. With iMovie 08, all of the panes are adjustable so you can best suit your style. With iMovie HD, the screen is fixed, and if you have a large project, you'll be doing allot of scrolling in the timeline and in the clips pane.

iMovie HD

http://www.discoveryforyoureyes.com/dpreview/01.jpg

iMovie 08

http://www.discoveryforyoureyes.com/dpreview/02.jpg

Aug 13, 2007 12:04 AM in response to Northwest Photos

When you edit a single clip in iMovie 08, you generally find the clip in the Events pane, edit it from there, and drop it into your projects pane below.

Here is how to do it in a more exacting fashion:

Tip 1: Click on the "edit" button with your mouse. (2nd to the right in the button lines in the middle- next to the dark star. Cursor will turn yellow and change to an edit cursor. CLICK on any clip in the EVENTS pane and that clip will immediately drop to the end of your project "View Line" below. No more dragging!

Tip 2: Click on the "Edit" icon button with your mouse. (2nd to the right in the button lines in the middle- next to the dark star). See the screen here:

http://www.discoveryforyoureyes.com/dpreview/02.jpg

Then, drag the cursor into the clip that you want in the Events pane. The cursor will change to an "edit" cursor in yellow. While holding the "Shift" key, move the left and right arrows on your keyboard. You'll see a rectangle on that clip get larger or smaller as you move the arrows right or left.

You'll see both the seconds of the CLIP and the seconds of YOUR SELECTION appear in the events pane. Once done, just click on that clip and your edit will take place and drop into the end of your project window below.

If you want to insert your edited clip elsewhere in your project, just undue the cursor edit mode and drag the clip wherever you want it. The SHIFT DRAG editing times will cut for you and drop your new edited clip into the project pane.

Tip 3: Just want first 3 seconds of a 9 second clip for your project?

Select edit mode with your cursor-- place it at the beginning of your clip and drag the yellow highlight shading until 3 seconds appears. Release the mouse button and that 3 second clip will drop instantly into your project.

Clint

Clint

Aug 13, 2007 1:39 AM in response to Northwest Photos

Here is how to do it in a more exacting fashion: ... Click on the "edit" button with your mouse.


Hi Clint,
thanks for sharing your workflow, which indeed adds some extra speed to the editing process..

I'm used to 'drag from clip pane' for years, so an 'instant drop' wasn't in my focus. plus, that new techniqué avoids 'cropping'(=the yellow arrows), it allows easiely to use only parts of an import, it allows easiely to use the same part of an import repeatedly in your project ... (in iMHD you had to perform that ctrl-drag 'trick'...)

as I said often here (esp. after testing iM-EZ), the *User Experience* is breathtaking, awesome, groundbraking...

okay, a scuba diver isn't interested in the original audio.. that explains for me the lack of some basic editing features, I like&need in an editing app ...
.. but, that is a v.0 ... let's wait & see ...

keep posting...

PS: I'm jealous to the quality of your recordings.. 🙂

Aug 13, 2007 5:58 AM in response to Bengt Wärleby

Agree 100%, these features on top of the existing iMovie 06 would have been a very nice upgrade.

With the complete removal of effects, it forces you to either use two applications or ignore iMovie 08 as a useless part of iLife 08.

Note I am quite pleased with iPhoto 08 and have found organizing to be a snap. I do see the good features in iMovie 08 but the removal of essential features is just too glaring of an ommission to accept.

There was no mention that iMovie 08 had essentially been stripped down and the removal of effects, transitions, themes ... should have been noted. If marketing is afraid to put it on the package then you know the users are likely not to be happy.

Aug 14, 2007 2:35 PM in response to Northwest Photos

<<Tip 1: Click on the "edit" button with your mouse. (2nd to the right in the button lines in the middle- next to the dark star. Cursor will turn yellow and change to an edit cursor. CLICK on any clip in the EVENTS pane and that clip will immediately drop to the end of your project "View Line" below. No more dragging!>>

Could you clarify 'edit' button, next to the dark star? That would be the other start, 'unmark selection'?

I click on a clip in the Events Library, and the yellow outline box appears, which I can adjust with the mouse, or as you suggest, a frame at a time by holding down the shift key. But it doesn't move anywhere, unless I drag it up to the Project Library, which is 'above', not below.

Could you walk me thru the process again?

Thanks,

Hal
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Aug 14, 2007 8:40 PM in response to Northwest Photos

Actually, iMovie 06 is nondestructive to a certain extent, it's just that most people don't know it. After you've trimmed a clip in the timeline, all you have to do if you want to change it is move your cursor to the edge and drag it back out, similar to garageband. The catch is, that audio bands can't be on or it won't work. iMovie 06 also works more like Final Cut, in that you can set in and out points on the clip viewer and then pull that into the timeline.

Another thing you mentioned, splitting, really bothers me in this version. Correct me if the following is wrong, but when you split a clip, it actually splits in two places (wherever the start and end of your selection tool is). This makes no sense.

But yes, there are many useful features in iMovie 08, it's just a shame they weren't all included in one grand package.

Oh actually there's more I wanted to mention...on the positive side, iMovie 08 also has a beautiful voice over tool, and I'd recommend using it over 06's version. It has noise reduction and voice enhancement. I also really like the normalization function, which automatically prevents your audio from clipping (being so loud that it distorts). Cropping is also new and very useful.

After all this though, iMovie 06 is still far and beyond 08. It's easier to use in my opinion, and with more features overall (plus more granular control). I feel like the people who designed iPhoto must have designed the new iMovie...the two programs just look too similar. (And did you notice that iPhoto and iMovie are now the only two apple apps that close the second you hit the big red X button? Similarities indeeeed...)

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Aug 15, 2007 8:27 AM in response to Northwest Photos

All of your comments hits the mark. Imovie 08 is easy to use, fast to render and the user experience is very enjoyable compared to the previous version. Perhaps Apple can release separate adds on for that other "cheesy" features later on? Overall I prefer the new version over the old version, and I am glad that at least it does not overwrite the older version (for those who still prefer Imovie 06). I can understand those who gripes about the lack of "upgrade", sometimes an upgrade does not always mean adding more features, but simplifying the program and make it more user friendly.

Aug 15, 2007 1:19 PM in response to Kurt Madel

Kurt,

You shouldn't be so quick to discredit others use of cheesy effects in the previous iMovie. The same applies to your enjoyment of faster renders. Some people didn't mind the slower rendering and longer editing process because the end result is what matters...

Here is a perfect example of how powerful iMovie HD combined with third party f/x could be...

http://homepage.mac.com/davidbabsky/iMovieTheater16.html

Show us something even close to this type of creativity in iMovie08!

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