Full Conductor's score with Logic. Is it possible?
I've heard it's possible to create full conductor scores with Logic. Is it truly possible?
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Yep. I have done so many times.
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In my experience its not a good idea. I ended up doing my scores in Sibelius as Logic's score has too many glitches which don't act in the way they should. The way your MIDI data is written in matrix isn't necassarily how it will appear in the score in my experience. I'm not saying its not possible, but I think you have to be very careful. Logic doesn't prioritise its score features, therefore its not what it does best. Sibelius is designed for this and is in my experience a lot quicker, easier and more flexible if you suddenly want to make big changes. I'm sure some may disagree with this. I certainly use Logic for small scale scores, if I'm writing a small part for a soloist for example, but for a full conductors score? I wouldn't try it...
Is there a resource for creating full orchestral scores from Logic? There seems to be a consensus out there that it can't be done reliably and effectively.
Thank you.
Thank you.
There certainly is no such consensus. Rohan Stevenson, who used to be here more than he has been of late, and I do it regularly.
You might want to buy Johannes Prischl's bible of Logic's score editor called "The Logic Notation Guide."
It was written a long time ago but since very little has changed in Logic's score editor it is still incredibly useful.
That said, Sibelius IS a dedicated score editor and no doubt is more powerful and quicker in some areas. I taught a 8 hour score class here in LA about 6 months ago and one guy in the class was a Sibelius person and he was surprised that some things were actually easier in Logic Pro.
You might want to buy Johannes Prischl's bible of Logic's score editor called "The Logic Notation Guide."
It was written a long time ago but since very little has changed in Logic's score editor it is still incredibly useful.
That said, Sibelius IS a dedicated score editor and no doubt is more powerful and quicker in some areas. I taught a 8 hour score class here in LA about 6 months ago and one guy in the class was a Sibelius person and he was surprised that some things were actually easier in Logic Pro.
Thank you. Your comments were very helpful. I will purchase the Prischi. Are there any other resources that you would recommend?
Thank you again.
Thank you again.
hi,
as asher pointed out, making a full conductors score is perfectly possible with logic, but there are issues, little problems, limitations and work arounds that have to be known about to make it a smooth experience.
also, as asher again pointed out, there are many things that are fast on logic than in other dedicated notators, and in general composing the raw material is easier faster and more flexible than a dedicated notator. at least over on this side of the pond, working in logic and exporting to sibelius for the final result is very standard way of operating. now, there is a PDF to XML application which some of us here (not me though - not tried it) have had great success with. i think william levine who does a lot of orchestrating in logic and recommends it.
if err...you can pardon the forwardness...i have on line some sample scores that might demonstrate what is possible in logic.
http://www.rohanstevenson.com/
and go to concert music. 'black ice' or 'devil' are full orchestral scores.
finally, if you do want to get your feet wet with scoring in logic, aside from j prischls tutorial, my mine bit of advice is to understand to concepts thoroughly - everything else will follow from that.
1) score styles. you can have as many as you want on a track/instrument
2) instrument sets. set a KC for their creation. understand what they are and how you can use them to create parts as well as help you edit. incredibly fast and flexible.
as asher pointed out, making a full conductors score is perfectly possible with logic, but there are issues, little problems, limitations and work arounds that have to be known about to make it a smooth experience.
also, as asher again pointed out, there are many things that are fast on logic than in other dedicated notators, and in general composing the raw material is easier faster and more flexible than a dedicated notator. at least over on this side of the pond, working in logic and exporting to sibelius for the final result is very standard way of operating. now, there is a PDF to XML application which some of us here (not me though - not tried it) have had great success with. i think william levine who does a lot of orchestrating in logic and recommends it.
if err...you can pardon the forwardness...i have on line some sample scores that might demonstrate what is possible in logic.
http://www.rohanstevenson.com/
and go to concert music. 'black ice' or 'devil' are full orchestral scores.
finally, if you do want to get your feet wet with scoring in logic, aside from j prischls tutorial, my mine bit of advice is to understand to concepts thoroughly - everything else will follow from that.
1) score styles. you can have as many as you want on a track/instrument
2) instrument sets. set a KC for their creation. understand what they are and how you can use them to create parts as well as help you edit. incredibly fast and flexible.
Full Conductor's score with Logic. Is it possible?