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apostol13 Level 3 Level 3 (505 points)
I am on a budget to upgrade the studio and I am not sure on which of the two pitch correctors I should invest. I already tried the Melodyne demo and it is nice, but I haven't tried the Autotune. Some insight from you guys would help make the wiser decision.
P.S. I am a tweaker when it comes to synths, but when it comes to my pitch corrector I want the one which have some presets that will allign any flat notes with just a couple of clicks.

G 5 Quad, 4GB RAM, Mac OS X (10.4.9), Reason Rewired with Logic Pro 7.2.3, Recycle, DIGI 002(rack)
  • 1. Re: Melodyne or Autotune?
    Jocko Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)
    I have used Melodyne for some time now, and find it far better than Autotune. It just makes any changes sound a lot more natural.
    Autotune is the quick fix (which i still use).
    But for me, its Melodyne that's the hands down winner.

    Also, Melodyne Uno is a cheap way to find out if its right for you. i think it's around £100
  • 2. Re: Melodyne or Autotune?
    ging36 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    They both work really good with a great singer. However, I find I can get better results with Melodyne if I can spend a lot of time editing. If you set it and leave it it sounds kinda too perfect. Where Autotune you can set how fast the pitch detection reacts. So if you want to just set it and leave it Autotune is the way to go. But if you want unbelevable control over pitch and timing and have the patience to edit Melodyne is the one.
  • 3. Re: Melodyne or Autotune?
    mattrixx Level 3 Level 3 (940 points)
    Melodyne is so flexible.... and you can use it in so many ways. Plugin, Rewire, Standalone.
    You can even trick its detection process.
  • 4. Re: Melodyne or Autotune?
    Chris_Carter Level 1 Level 1 (70 points)
    I also use both, and while Autotune is OK'ish for quick & dirty fixes I much prefer the more natural 'unprocessed' sound of Melodyne. If you are willing to put in the time Melodyne is capable of truly outstanding results.
  • 5. Re: Melodyne or Autotune?
    jord Level 5 Level 5 (5,230 points)
    I bought the Melodyne Plug-in a couple of months ago (there was a special on it, so I decided to go for it) and, to be honest, I haven't regretted it. Despite the fact that I felt dirty for using it at the start, I tried it on a client recording and not only did it sound very natural with the song, the client loved what I did (she took it a lot better than I thought she would). The best part of Melodyne is that you cannot tell that it is being used, unless you want to make it blatently obvious. That's probably why I shied away from pitch correction in the beginning... it was too obvious. Definitely recommend Melodyne.

    jord
  • 6. Re: Melodyne or Autotune?
    Jim Frazier Level 5 Level 5 (5,325 points)
    All the artists I work with LOVE what I do for them, using Melodyne.

    I can "run a comb through it" (as one artist put it), and it doesn't affect the sincerity of the performance one bit. Granted, I go easy with it, but that's usually all that's necessary, when the singer is good, or has a good vibe.

    I cut a vocal last week, and there was one word where the singer LOVED her inflection, but it was ever so slightly flat. We knocked off for the night, and after she left, I quickly "nudged it" up a few cents.

    When she came by in the morning, she listened to her work from the night before, and said, "Hey, that word isn't bothering me at all today". When I informed her I fixed it, she was blown away, because it had all the original inflection, and all the imperfections of the original... just closer to the target pitch.

    You can't do that with Autotune.
  • 7. Re: Melodyne or Autotune?
    shaffer.david Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    I use Melodyne. Generally, it is pretty good. But, if you are going to be doing 6/8 and tempo changes, it has some bugs.
  • 8. Re: Melodyne or Autotune?
    Ashermusic Level 3 Level 3 (690 points)
    The newest version of AT is improved and does not have to be obvious if you use it gently.
  • 9. Re: Melodyne or Autotune?
    shaffer.david Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    Regarding AT, have you tried it on a track with a signature other than 4/4? How about tempo changes? How does it work?

    I have the Melodyne plug-in and the stand-alone. If all I want to do is center some slightly off-center notes or correct the timing, it works great. But, if (like was mentioned above) you want to shift a pitch a couple of whole steps, the sound can get kinda "nasally" (if that's a word).

    Anyway, I'll have to check out AT.

    I did this..
    WelcomeHome
    .. with Melodyne on the (muted) trumpet. But as you'll hear, there are some places where the sound can be kinda "nasally" (and these were just centering pitches - not moving whole steps or anything like that - just general correction). I think the muted sound of the trumpet accentuates that effect. On normal trumpet (not muted) parts and vocals Melodyne does a much better job.

    Also, generally, the workflow of Melodyne is really simple. How is the workflow of AT? What's the process? Actually, I really like the built-in pitch correction for Logic. Logic doesn't have the timing adjustments that are necessary sometimes; so I kinda default to Melodyne. And no, I don't want to change all of my clips to Apple Loops - it's a horrible workflow.

    Have you tried AT on trumpet parts? Does it also have time correction (along with pitch correction)?

    Ohhh, one other thing, I can't stand that the Melodyne plug-in window is not resizable.
  • 10. Re: Melodyne or Autotune?
    Timothy B Hewitt Level 4 Level 4 (1,535 points)
    shaffer.david wrote:
    Ohhh, one other thing, I can't stand that the Melodyne plug-in window is not resizable.



    You can't drag it to size, but you can resize in the prefs.


    I love Melodyne. 'Nuff said.
  • 11. Re: Melodyne or Autotune?
    apostol13 Level 3 Level 3 (505 points)
    Melodyne it is.
  • 12. Re: Melodyne or Autotune?
    shaffer.david Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    SWEET!!!! Thanks for the tip!
  • 13. Re: Melodyne or Autotune?
    Ashermusic Level 3 Level 3 (690 points)
    AT handles different meters fine and tempo changes OK as far as I have noticed.

    No it does not have time correction, only pitch,

    And no I have no tried it on trumpet, just vocals. I would not hire a trumpet player who could not play in tune but sometimes I am forced to work with singers who can be pitchy.
  • 14. Re: Melodyne or Autotune?
    shaffer.david Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    It doesn't seem that AT does much more than the built-in pitch correction that Logic already has.

    Well.. there's a difference between playing in-tune and playing perfectly in-tune with the sterile environment that recording provides. Another thing that Melodyne allows me to do is adjust vibrato of individual notes and the way notes are slurred at times. So, it is quite flexible in that regard - I do a one take recording and know if there is anything that I don't like, I can fix it. It's a very fast workflow.

    One other thing, Melodyne works great on sax parts. I used it to create natural sounding sax harmonies on the sountrack of this..
    LW

    All these tracks were 1 take - like all of my tracks. The rest is engineering.
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