RAM config for Mac Pro

I've seen some conflicting info on this, so hopefully this will be an easy one to clear up. I have all of my RAM installed like this in my MacPro:

Riser A/DIMM1: 512MB
Riser A/DIMM2: 512MB
Riser A/DIMM3: 2 GB
Riser A/DIMM4: 2 GB
Riser B/DIMM1: 2 GB
Riser B/DIMM2: 2 GB

Does it matter that I put the 512MB modules in the 1st and 2nd slots, rather than the 3rd and 4th? Any performance issues?

Thanks for your insights!

MacPro Dual Quad-core, Apple Fibre Channel Card, 3.5 TB Xserve RAID in a 50 RAID, Mac OS X (10.4.10)

Posted on Aug 28, 2007 11:56 AM

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Aug 28, 2007 5:43 PM in response to Matt Larson2

I'm wanting to install 4GB also.

This is what I've heard - you want to use both risers and populate them in matching pairs (2x1GB for example) from the same manufacturer.

From Macworld article:
"To take full advantage of the new memory architecture’s 256-bit data path, you’ll need to use at least four DIMMs."
http://www.macworld.com/2006/10/features/macpromem/index.php

Obviously this doesn't answer your question, but I just got off the phone with applecare asking about how to cofigure memory to maximize it and they mentioned nothing about which (1-2, or 3-4) slots to populate on each riser, only that THEY THOUGHT one should try to get the amount of memory as even as possible between the two risers.

They said I should call an apple store to get more info since it is a hardware question.

Does anyone know if the memory needs to be exactly even between the two risers to take full benefit of it?

I'd appreciate any help.

Good luck on your question - i'll be very interested to hear, so please respond if you get a definative answer.

JW

Aug 28, 2007 11:44 PM in response to Wiesen

Note: On Mac Pro systems, the distribution of memory modules may affect the performance characteristics of your video applications.

*Final Cut Studio*: For best performance on Mac Pro install memory in risers symmetrically To achieve optimal performance when running Final Cut Studio applications, memory DIMM pairs should be installed evenly on both risers.

Note: DIMMs must be installed in pairs of equal size from the same vendor. For instance, you must not have one or three DIMMs on either riser at any time. Additionally, two DIMMs from different vendors should not be combined and used as a pair.

Other configurations of DIMM pairs are still compatible with Final Cut Studio, but may not achieve the same performance levels as when DIMM pairs are installed on both risers evenly.

For best performance on Mac Pro, install memory in risers symmetrically, DIMM pairs should be installed evenly on both risers.

DIMMs must be installed in pairs of equal size from the same vendor.
DIMMs from different vendors should not be combined and used as a pair. Other configurations of DIMM pairs are still compatible, but may not achieve the same performance levels as when DIMM pairs are installed on both risers evenly.

Solution This table shows Mac Pro RAM configurations that will achieve ideal performance when running Final Cut Studio applications:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304492

*Background Discussion:*

Memory is connected to the North Bridge via two 128-bit channels (256 bit). Each channel services two memory slots via the Advanced Memory Buffers (AMB) using FB-DIMMs. Every Mac Pro comes with two memory riser cards, each with four fully-buffered DIMM slots. With a total of eight DIMM slots available, you can install up to 16GB of memory. To help dissipate heat, every Apple DIMM you purchase for your Mac Pro comes with its own preinstalled heat sink. This unique heat sink lets fans run slower and quieter yet keeps the memory cool enough to run at full speed.

Mac Pro's memory architecture consists of two memory riser cards organized by branches, channels, and DIMMs. The memory controller hub (MCH) on the North Bridge has two branches with Branch 0 going to Riser A and Branch 1 to Riser B.

The North Bridge IC connects to an Advanced Memory Buffer (AMB) device on the FB-DIMM modules using a high speed serial link running at 4 GHz DDR, with 14 northbound (read) lanes and 10 southbound (write) lanes. The North Bridge IC has two high speed serial links, each capable of addressing four FB-DIMMs. The DIMMs are arranged in pairs operating in lock-stepped, dual channel mode to provide a 128-bit wide datapath, plus 16 bits of ECC.

Each memory riser card has four DIMM slots labeled 1 to 4.
On Riser A, Channel 0 serves DIMMs 1 and 3 and Channel 1 serves DIMMs 2 and 4.
On Riser B, Channel 2 serves DIMMs 1 and 3 and Channel 3 serves DIMMs 2 and 4.

The AMBs on DIMMs 1 and 2 connect to the MCH via a high speed serial bus. If installed, the AMBs on DIMMs 3 and 4 connect to the AMBs on DIMMs 1 and 2, respectively. The high speed serial bus consists of 14 unidirectional northbound lanes (towards the MCH) and 10 unidirectional southbound lanes (towards the DIMMs) to carry command, address, and data traffic.

The MCH operates each branch independently. At DDR2-667 speeds, each branch provides a peak theoretical thruput of 10.6 GBps of northbound (from memory to North Bridge) traffic and 5.3 GBps of southbound (from North Bridge to memory) traffic. RAM Expansion: Developer Note

Further reading: Tom's Hardware: Memory Bandwidth

Aug 29, 2007 1:58 PM in response to Matt Larson2

So, If I want to add 4 GB to the original 1 GB on my Mac Pro,it looks like putting the original 2 512MB RAM boards onto Riser A Dimms 3 & 4 and putting 4 additional 1GB RAM boards onto Risers A and B Dimms 1 & 2 would be the best option. But what would I lose by buying 2 2GB RAM boards and putting them on Riser B Dimms 1 & 2? This allows me to have more Dimm slots free for additional RAM purchases. I mostly use Adobe Photoshop CS3 at the present time. If this program is not slowed by using the 2 @ 2GB RAM boards, it makes no differrence to me not having the 4 Dimm slots having the same RAM boards on Risers A & B. I can always buy another 2 @ 2 GB RAM cards later tog et the 4 matched boards (or do they have to be bought at the same time in matched sets of 4?).

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