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Internal ZIP drive to external?

I have a B&W G3 that came with an internal 100 MB ZIP drive. Can I remove it and use it as a stand alone external drive and if so, what other parts would I need?

iMac G5 Intel, Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Posted on Aug 29, 2007 7:38 AM

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Posted on Aug 29, 2007 9:08 AM

It would probably be more trouble and expense than it's worth. The internal Zip drive is an ATAPI device with a 40-pin connection, so you'd need an external case for removable media devices (like a 5.25" optical drive), because the Zip drive's faceplate must be exposed for inserting/removing disks. You'd also need the 5.25" to 3.5" reducing sled with faceplate for the case, which shipped with Iomega retail boxed internal Zip drives, for installing in an empty 5.25" expansion bay. As for the choice of external case connectivity, it would either be FireWire or USB, but if the bridge chip used in the external case doesn't recognize the Zip drive, then it's a lost cause. I attempted to convert an internal ATAPI Zip drive for external use, by installing it in an external USB 1.1 CD-RW's case. Once connected, I got several different error messages identifying "missing" software, which really pertained to the programming of the bridge chip itself. It had nothing to do with Iomega's USB driver, because that driver was already installed in the Extensions folder. The Zip drive is both a mass storage device and removable media device, so you'd want to check the manufacturer's specs for the external case, to be sure that it would be supported. Converting an internal SCSI Zip drive for external use in a SCSI case is a straightforward swap with no problems, but that's not the case with an ATAPI Zip drive. As I wrote at the outset, it may not be worth attempting the conversion, especially since you can find used, external Iomega USB Zip 100 drives for very little now. The first generation of USB Zip drives had an external 5-volt power supply, but the newer ones are smaller, bus-powered devices. The low cost and convenience of using USB flash drives has made the more expensive Zip disks less popular for backup usage now.
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Aug 29, 2007 9:08 AM in response to BluSky

It would probably be more trouble and expense than it's worth. The internal Zip drive is an ATAPI device with a 40-pin connection, so you'd need an external case for removable media devices (like a 5.25" optical drive), because the Zip drive's faceplate must be exposed for inserting/removing disks. You'd also need the 5.25" to 3.5" reducing sled with faceplate for the case, which shipped with Iomega retail boxed internal Zip drives, for installing in an empty 5.25" expansion bay. As for the choice of external case connectivity, it would either be FireWire or USB, but if the bridge chip used in the external case doesn't recognize the Zip drive, then it's a lost cause. I attempted to convert an internal ATAPI Zip drive for external use, by installing it in an external USB 1.1 CD-RW's case. Once connected, I got several different error messages identifying "missing" software, which really pertained to the programming of the bridge chip itself. It had nothing to do with Iomega's USB driver, because that driver was already installed in the Extensions folder. The Zip drive is both a mass storage device and removable media device, so you'd want to check the manufacturer's specs for the external case, to be sure that it would be supported. Converting an internal SCSI Zip drive for external use in a SCSI case is a straightforward swap with no problems, but that's not the case with an ATAPI Zip drive. As I wrote at the outset, it may not be worth attempting the conversion, especially since you can find used, external Iomega USB Zip 100 drives for very little now. The first generation of USB Zip drives had an external 5-volt power supply, but the newer ones are smaller, bus-powered devices. The low cost and convenience of using USB flash drives has made the more expensive Zip disks less popular for backup usage now.

Aug 29, 2007 11:58 AM in response to BluSky

BluSky,

In Seattle, external or internal zip drives are $5. It is the cost of the extra bits and pieces that will cost you. You would still need a SCSI card or second controller for a B&W. You are better off keeping the Zip as is and buy a new PCI controller card to accomodate newer hard drives.

Some G3s may have an internal SCSI zip drive if it was a server with a SCSI card. They would have done this to free up space on the IDE controller because a SCSI chain can support 7 or 15 devices. If so, go to a used computer store or recycler and pick up an external CD-ROM drive and cable. Pull the CD-ROM device out and put in the ZIP. You will have an interface cable and a power cable to unplug. To have room for the wider SCSI interface pins, the SCSI zips used the smaller power pins so you would need an adapter for the power.

Buy a controller card if you do not have all the bits and pieces laying around. Also beware of the 'click of death' problem associated with some older zip drives. Do not archive to zip disks. Period. They can not be trusted because of head alignment issues. I backed up to a zip 100 this morning so they are still worth using, just move data to the destination before clearing the original files.

Ji˜m

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