Powerbook G3 firewire/USB card in PCI slot

Can you post that PC/CardBus card's model number or a link to the HP product page?

John,

Sounds like you have the Powerbook G3 Series "Wallstreet" and you are running OS 9.2.x. A few points I would like to make:

-Combo FireWire/USB CardBus PC cards do not work well with OS 9.x; either the USB or FireWire port does not work. This is a software problem in 9.x since these combos work fine under 10.x. My suggestion would be to buy a separate USB PC card and/or FireWire PC card for your connectivity.

-USB 2.0 PC cards will only run at the slower USB 1.1 speeds under 9.x but this is fine for printers, etc. If you wanted to connect an HD, I would use the FireWire interface.

-Since FireWire and USB are not native to the Wallstreet, the necessary USB and FireWire extensions have not been installed. Check your Extensions Manager and see if they are present. If not, please describe what OS 9.x CD(s) you have so we have a starting point and exactly what version 9.x you are currently running.

I thought I would be able to download iCab web browser from my G4

Do you have Broadband Internet, or dial-up?

The most efficient way to connect your Macs to transfer files and share things is to connect them via Ethernet and take advantage of built-in File Sharing. The ability to share files from a Server has been available since very early on, and Personal File Sharing has been available since System 7.1. Versions from 7.5.3 through 10.3.9 interconnect with ease, and stretching at one end or the other is possible with some work.

106658- Creating a small Ethernet network

Carlson's OS 9 to 10.3 Illustrated File Sharing set-up Tutorial

Once connected, you may be able to share your G4's printer.

RE: Mac OS X-

You can run Mac OS X 10.2 directly. If you have 256 MB, you can run 10.3 using XPostFacto. Apple does not support it, but they have not sued the creators into oblivion either.

I have not been able to find any acknowledgment from HP Web site that your Cardbus card exists. I did find 50 vendors to sell me one, but none seemed to think it was supported under any Mac OS.

Message was edited by: Grant Bennet-Alder

John,

As Grant noted, you want to connect to the Net using either your built-in modem if you only have a dialup service or via your Ethernet port if you have a cable modem or a DSL modem.

The USB and FireWire cards are used for peripherals...printers, HDs, optical burners, etc. FireWire is the high-speed connection to use for HDs and burners; USB 1.1 is fine for printers, mouse, external keyboard, etc.

If you open your Extensions Mananger, see if you have these extensions:

USB Mass Storage Extension
USB Support
USB Mass Storage Support
USB Software Locator
USB Device Extension

If the above are not present, I recommend you download this USB extension package from OWC; they assembled various version numbers of the Apple USB extensions to correct a problem OS 9.2.2 has with USB PC cards. Just copy this link into your address bar of your browser window, then hit 'enter':

http://eshop.macsales.com/tech/ftp/usb/usbextensions.sit

A file titled 'usbextensions.sit' will appear on your desktop assuming you have set the browser to download files to your desktop. Double-click the file to decompress it and you will have a folder on the desktop with these extensions:

USB Support v1.4.1
USB Software Locator v1.5.6
USB Device Extension v1.5.6
USB Mass Storage Support v2.0.4
USB Mass Storage Extension v2.0.4

Highlight all five extensions, then drag them on top of the closed System Folder icon; they will be automatically installed in the Extensions folder. Before restarting, go to Apple menu > Control Panels > Energy Saver > Advanced Settings and uncheck 'Allow Processor Cycling' for •BOTH• the power adapter and battery. If not unchecked, the powerbook will freeze with a USB PC card.

Now restart to make the USB extensions active. Insert the USB/FireWire PC card; you should see a USB and/or FireWire PC card icon on the desktop. Connect a USB mouse and test the USB PC card.

If no desktop USB and/or FireWire PC card icon appears, make sure the PC card is fully inserted. You may have to place a hand on the side of the powerbook opposite the PC card slot so you can push hard. If the card fails to seat, the card slot may be in the locked position. Push an opened paperclip into the small hole next to the slot to unlock, then try the card again.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=16167

Regarding FireWire: You need these three extensions for a PC card:

FireWire CardBus Enabler
FireWire Enabler
FireWire Support

The easiest way to install these extensions, at least at this point, is to download FireWire 2.5:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58642

Once you have expanded the file, drag the three extensions on top of the closed System Folder icon, then restart.

Regarding the Extensions Manager: A - (minus) sign in the box next to Control Panels means some extensions are not turned on. A + (plus) in a box means the extension is active (loading) at startup.

If you already have a Router, an Ethernet cable, and a browser of any description, you are almost there. First, open the TCP/IP Control panel and see what IP address you are using:

a) none -- you have not yet tried to connect to anything

b) 169.254.xxx.yyy -- that is the "Self-Assigned" Ethernet Address range. You get it when no none will talk to you. Check your cables, then consider using a Manual IP Address to get going.

c) a Manual address that is not similar to your Router's address -- you need to have an address similar to your Router's address to get it on your "team" (Subnet). It must be the same in every place where there are 1-bits in the Subnet Mask. 255 is eight one-bits, so 255.255.255.0 means Addresses the same in the three high octets are on the same subnet.

To get on the Internet, the Router's IP Address must show up in the Router field.

In addition, try typing the address mentioned in this article directly into the URL line in the browser:

106799- Mac OS: Long Delay Before Web Pages Start to Load, Then Load Suddenly at Normal Speed

Message was edited by: Grant Bennet-Alder

In Mac OS 9, that info is in TCP/IP Control panel.

In Mac OS X, the same stuff is in:
System Preferences > Network > Show: Network Status
With luck, it has a green light on Built-in Ethernet. Then double-click on the Built-In Ethernet Interface, and a five-panel box shows up:

\ TCP/IP \ PPPoE \ AppleTalk \ Proxies \ Ethernet \

Choose The TCP/IP pane, and all the stuff you want will appear. If you have selected
Configure IPv4: Using DHCP

... then all the rest of the values on the page will be supplied by your Router just after Startup (the first time you need to get to the Internet, such as setting the Time). If that is the case, use the same settings for your Mac OS 9 Mac.

If the DNS box is empty, you may not have entered an IP Address for your ISP's DNS Server -- either here or when setting up the Router. A DNS Server looks up "Apple.com" into "17.254.0.91" so your packets can be sent somewhere.

You do not need the 802.3 checkbox.

I selected "using DHCP server''. I noticed a number in the DHCP Client ID, that I assume the numbers were placed there by the ISP. I don't think I put it there. It has numbers and letters:00:11:24:7f:b6:c6. I didn't fill out any other info.

That number is a Hexadecimal (base-16) Hardware Address or M.A.C. Address. It is put in by the manufacturer to uniquely identify an particular Ethernet interface. What it is doing in that field, I know not. That field is usually left blank for DSL.

If you have a Router, and select DHCP, the first time you try to do anything concerning the Internet, such as:
• open a browser and choose a page or type a URL
• set the time with a network time server
• check software update status
many of the fields will be filled in. To start the process, your Mac broadcasts a request for a DHCP Server to please lease it an address and tell it where to send its Internet-bound packets. Your Router responds with data to fill in:
• IP address that this computer may now use, and for how long you can keep using it
• Subnet Mask - which has one-bits, starting at the left end, for bits that are the same for IP addresses in this subnet. 255 is an octet with all 1-bits, so 255.255.255.0 is a subnet mask that says all addresses with the same first three octets are in the same subnet, and can communicate freely without the router.
• IO Address of the Router to send packets for the Internet

It should also be supplying:
• IP address of at least one Domain Name Server. This will typically be your ISP's computer set to lookup names to addresses, and will probably not be in the same range of addresses.

Those other fields are not required, and are most often left blank.

Always close the OS 9 Control panel window to save the changes. If you need it, you can open it right back up again.

I configured "Manually"; then I put in the IP address; then the subnet mask address ; then the router address.

That is all you MUST have, but that IP address is the address of your G4. For your G3, add one to the G4's IP Address so that each Mac has a unique IP Address.

What do you get for an IP address when you say connect via DHCP?

a) 169.254.xxx.yyy -- you aren't talking to anybody but yourself

b) 192.168.0.3 -- your router is happy to give you a valid address, but something else is going on.

c) it never gets any IP address -- it is not working enough to even think it has an Internet connection, can't set time from a Network Time Server, can't load any pages.