Java 1.6
MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.9)
MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.9)
jportway wrote:
For one project I'm doing I need 64 bit addressing - Java 5 just can't handle enough memory.
jportway wrote:
The problem for me is the extraordinary disrespect shown to developers in leaving them out in the cold like this with no information at all - it was a complete shock to me when the Java 6 beta disappeared without any explanation. As far as I know there STILL has been no comment from Apple about what's going on.
This incident has really shown me the value of open and transparent operating systems - at least on an open source OS everyone knows what's going on and you don't have to deal with sudden unilateral and unexplained decisions like this.
If it is that important, then why don't you just pick up the phone and use one of your free technical support incidents to ask about Java 6?????
If Java 6 is a year old, what was Apple's response when you asked about it at the last WWDC?
etresoft wrote:
I also don't need Java. I will use Java if that is the only solution, but I prefer pretty much any (decent, no Tcl/Tk, please) implementation over Java.
jportway wrote:
They're not free.
I wasn't at the last WWDC, but as I remember the word was that Java 6 would be available on Leopard, but they weren't sure whether it would be available on Tiger.
... there was a beta available ... Then it disappeared without trace.
It's very possible that Java 6 will suddenly appear in a couple of weeks - but if so why on earth is everyone at Apple so silent about it ?
Then why are you here ? I don't trawl around the net writing comments in forums about stuff that I don't care about or have any knowledge about - I think that's a policy you might be wise to embrace, because otherwise you risk looking foolish.
jportway wrote:
Ok. I don't want to derail this forum with a silly flame war, so I'm not going to get trolled any further after this message.
Java 6 is currently the most stable version of Java.
I'm also confused why, if Apple provided a Java 6 JVM with "a fair number of incompatibilities", it would be unfair to complain to Apple about the bugs, since they are currently in charge of maintaining the JVM.
Imagine that one day you eventually install Leopard (which I'm sure you won't be doing for another couple of years because you're not "waiting with baited breath for the next, latest release").
On installing it you find that your Etresoft "small, fast easy to use todo list manager" crashes because of bugs in the operating system and that all of your millions of customers are now emailing you complaining about it. Do you think you might complain and try to get Apple to fix the bugs ?
Please understand that any question marks you see in this posting are purely rhetorical and I'm unlikely to bother taking the time to respond to any more silly trolling.
etresoft wrote:
Finally, given that we are all discussing this matter on Apple's discussion boards and the thread isn't locked or deleted, this is all public knowledge.
daneng wrote:
This fiasco shows that Apple does not consider Java developers and businesses to be a target audience. They could have opened Java development to third parties if they had been serious about it.
Java 1.6