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John from NOLA

Q: How to Test Ethernet in Wallstreet Powerbook?

I have been getting a lot of good advice from this forum, and am beginning to believe my ethernet connection is bad. I tested the cables, and they are fine. I have tried to connect to the internet froom the G3 and have tried to use "Carlson's OS 9 to OS X File Sharing Setup" and neither computer (G3 or G4 Powerbook sees the other. Anys suggestions?

PowerBook G3, Mac OS 9.2.x, 160mb ram; and 233mh processor; 7 G available

Posted on Sep 15, 2007 1:29 PM

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Q: How to Test Ethernet in Wallstreet Powerbook?

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  • by Eustace Mendis,

    Eustace Mendis Eustace Mendis Sep 16, 2007 8:11 AM in response to John from NOLA
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    Sep 16, 2007 8:11 AM in response to John from NOLA
    neither computer (G3 or G4 Powerbook sees the other
    Here's a comprehensive guide from Apple:
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106658
  • by John from NOLA,

    John from NOLA John from NOLA Sep 16, 2007 1:55 PM in response to Eustace Mendis
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    Sep 16, 2007 1:55 PM in response to Eustace Mendis
    Thanks for your response, but I did connect it properly; as a matter of fact, I connected it two ways, one with a patch cable and the second through a router; neither worked. I am not sure if the ethernet part is working. How can I verify it?
  • by jpl,

    jpl jpl Sep 16, 2007 8:15 PM in response to John from NOLA
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    Sep 16, 2007 8:15 PM in response to John from NOLA
    John,

    I tested my Ethernet port on my Wallstreet once using this method:

    1. Boot to your 9.x MacOS CD. This CD does have networking software so that a System Folder can be installed remotely.

    2. Since the boot System Folder on the CD does not have an Apple System Profiler, go to the System Folder on your HD > Apple Menu Items and launch the ASP. It will work fine since it is just an application.

    Using the above setup on my Wallstreet, I get this report:

    There is no mention of Ethernet anywhere, just LocalTalk; first line under Network Overview is LocalTalk (printer) built-in with 3 n/a(s)

    If I now just connect the crossover cable to my running iBook, then restart to the CD and open the ASP, Ethernet built-in is listed in place of LocalTalk, plus...

    Active network port(s) : Ethernet built-in
    This network, This node, and Hardware Address all have numbers.

    If you still get no reported Ethernet from a pristine boot CD, then your Ethernet hardware may have failed.
  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Sep 17, 2007 4:59 AM in response to jpl
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    Sep 17, 2007 4:59 AM in response to jpl
    jpl-

    If I now just connect the crossover cable to my running iBook, then restart to the CD and open the ASP, Ethernet built-in is listed in place of LocalTalk, plus...


    Do you mean to say that you need not have anything connected to this crossover cable, just the cable?

    Should this cable be connected to another Mac?

    Should you also try a straight cable connected to your Switch and observe the "port active" or similar lights at the Switch?
  • by jpl,

    jpl jpl Sep 17, 2007 9:14 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Sep 17, 2007 9:14 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
    Grant,

    I guess I was less than clear. I did this a few years ago, but I think I got it right though poorly explained.

    When the Wallstreet is booted to the CD (use the CD, at least in his case, for a clean OS) and without any network connection, the ASP should show no Ethernet info. I then connected a crossover cable from my Wallstreet to my running iBook; I cannot recall if I had any File Sharing set up on the iBook. I guess it is possible that if you relaunch the ASP on the Wallstreet at this point, the Ethernet info might appear; I just said to restart the Wallstreet to the CD again, then open the ASP.

    If you would like, I could try this procedure again to see if I get the same results.