iPhone screen showing negative/shimmering black/dark areas

I have noticed that my iPhone is showing a negative/silvery shimmer in extremely dark areas. My guess is that there are certain colors out of the LCDs gamut and it doesn't handle them quite right.

Has anyone seen this problem? Do you think apple is aware of this issue?
Any suggested remedies around this?

Thanks!
Vin

iPhone, Mac OS X (10.4.10)

Posted on Sep 18, 2007 2:58 PM

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Sep 18, 2007 8:33 PM in response to VinayakSuley

I haven't noticed this on my iphone but probably because I swapped out my iPod touch for THAT VERY REASON. It is definitely a problem on many if not all iPod touches. You had to hold it at an angle with the top left corner up to show all the colors on the screen. Very frustruating. I've noticed this VERY slightly on the iPhone screen, but it is definitely much much better.

The best reason I heard that would cause this when still researching the problem for my touch was that the anti-reflective coating that is place on the screen is meant to block colors at a certain angle, but is still transparent, so when deep blacks are near other color that is backlit they would reflect black back onto the screen, creating that negative look as well as the washing out it causes. I don't remember that specific link but there are several reviews on the web that compare the screens and all determine that the iPhone is better quality.

Hope that rant helped...

Sep 22, 2007 11:17 PM in response to VinayakSuley

I think it's worse than just a coating issue. Try this test.

Using a photo editing gprogram such as Photoshop, create a picture that contains a full screen gradient from white to black. Sync that to your iPhone/iPod Touch and view it.

You'll see a very regular gradient across the screen until you get to the black limit. Here it will appear lighter than the almost black portion of the gradient right next to it. In fact, it appears the same shade as the portion of the screen not showing the picture.

This leads me to suspect that there is some power conservation going one with black pixels that they don't have quite right yet. I think a low-level driver tweek could fix this for all of us. Just exclude the black limit color from display. I.e., if the color of black is 0, then display the color 1. This ends up looking blacker on our screens than absolute black does anyway.

You see this same issue when watching a widescreen movie. You'll notice that the black bands above and below the screen image are not black but a dark grey. The same dark grey that is shown when an absolute black appears in a photo or movie.

Apple, you REALLY need to fix this. And I don't think a unit swap is going to do the job with what I expain above. Not is you handle the pixels the same way in software.

Sep 23, 2007 12:02 AM in response to Robert Breeding1

Yes, I think I agree with that. This seems to be an issue with the way they deal with color gamut, because its not that the screen cannot go black at all.
However, wouldn't everyone be seeing it if it was a software problem?
I went to the Apple store and the genius dude looked at it and had no clue what was going on. He said that the problem was not registered in the Apple database so he couldn't really help me with it.
Should I ask for a replacement? I am not sure what I should do in this situation...any ideas?

Sep 23, 2007 1:18 AM in response to VinayakSuley

Well, I'm going to take mine in and have them look at it. If they want to replace it, I'll do the same test.
As far as everyone? Dunno, could be a firmware problem that not all see.

I gotta believe there is an easy fix for this. Will use my developer account to lodge a defect and see where it goes from there. I won't be able to share info from that exchange, non-disclosure and all, but may get someting moving for all or find out if something is already.

Sep 24, 2007 10:27 AM in response to VinayakSuley

I've noticed the same type of shimmering in dark areas of one movie in particular (Twister) and less so on a couple of others. Interestingly, though, I've had NO shimmering on a black and white movie that I ripped...clear as a bell. I'm wondering if some of the shimmering has to do with the way the movie is converted and/or if ALL iPhones and iTouches have this problem. Would hate to go through the trouble of taking it back if EVERY one will have the problem.

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