Please give me your insight

I'm sorry that this is off topic for this forum but I posted this in the correct forum and haven't gotten anyone to answer.

I bought a leather case for my iPod (not iPhone so it has a hard drive, not flash memory) and the case has two magnets that hold the flap closed. The magnets are on the flap and on the inside where the iPod goes into the case. The magnets are small and are located on the right hand side of the click wheel area.

Will these magnets damage my iPod? I don't see why they'd produce a case that would damage the iPod, but it occured to me to ask before I put the iPod in it.

Thanks.

PowerBook G4, 1.67GHz, 512MB, 80GB, Mac OS X (10.4.10), iPhone; iMac; iPod

Posted on Sep 25, 2007 10:59 AM

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Sep 25, 2007 11:02 AM in response to nickshred

Its possible the case could damage the iPod.

Since the hard drive uses magnetism to store the info, any magnetic field around the HD strong enough will alter its magnetic charge.

Is the field produced by your case strong enough to affect the HD? No way to guess. I just believe in playing it safe and never bringing a magnet close to a HD.

Sep 25, 2007 11:21 AM in response to Ansuz82

Thanks again. Maybe I just needed some reassurance. And you're right, I'm not going to waste my time driving over to the Best Buy. They won't know the answer. Suppose I could call the manufacturer but I'm perhaps not that paranoid. Not to mention it's not like they're going to say "Why yes, our product will destroy your iPod, return it and get your money back."

Sep 25, 2007 11:22 AM in response to nickshred

The problem is you can't practically 'insulate' a magnet. It has a magnetic field, the strength or weakness of which will depend on how strong the magnet is itself, but if the iPod's hard drive is within the magnetic field, it will suffer some damage, even if very slight. The sort of damage is important to be aware of though, because except in very unusual circumstances we're not talking about a hardware failure. What happens is that over time, as the drive sits in the magnetic field, the field gradually realigns the particles on the drive surface to fit the pattern of the field. Those particles are, for want of a more technical description, your data - so over time your data gets gradually scrubbed off.

However, data is digital not analog, so rather than fading like a picture in sunlight, it gets prone to increasing levels of error, though the drive itself is mechanically, physically and electrically fine.

All you need to do to keep your data safe is occasionally re-write it, because that puts back the original pattern of particles, and starts the 'fading' process from the beginning again.

How often you might need to do that depends on how strong the magnet, which you can get some idea of by how strongly it seems to snap shut or how much effort it takes to open it. The stronger the magnet the faster the wiping of data would be. At worst however, you would only have to restore your iPod via iTunes (same process as restoring the iPhone) and put your stuff back on.

It's also worth remembering that the earth itself has a magnetic field that does the same thing to drives. If you left your iPod in one place long enough, the earth would erase your data just like the magnetic clasp would!

Sep 25, 2007 11:35 AM in response to nickshred

It's funny, in the bad old days of floppy disks, people who kept them stored in metal filing cabinets often complained that they seemed to go faulty, leaving the files on them unrecoverable. It was sometimes due to bad disks of course, but often due to the accumulation of magnetic field on the cabinets themselves as the cabinets sit still in the earth's magnetic field, which then began to slowly 'fade' the data off the disks, and often even the directory and formatting of the disk itself. TVs, computer monitors (at least the old CRT types), old style telephones, power supplies... many things are actually capable of generating pretty strong magnetic fields - the reason it isn't a common problem is because unlike early magnetic media, the modern stuff allows data to be written 'stronger' (mostly meaning more density of particles more accurately aligned) thus requiring larger magnetic fields to damage it.

Sep 25, 2007 11:37 AM in response to nickshred

It should be OK to use the case, yes, unless the magnetic clasp is so strong it snaps shut and takes effort to pry it open again. Some modern magnets can be very small but incredibly strong! Still, yes, if you noticed any errors reading the iPod, reconnecting the iPod and ensuring the data is re-written would resolve the problem, and if not a full restore would do the trick.

Sep 25, 2007 11:42 AM in response to nickshred

If you have a compass (a rarity these days I imagine unless there's a boy scout in the household) you can get a sense of the strength of the magnetic field of any object by seeing how near you have to be to it before the needle swings to point to it. You'd find that for many old-style TVs, being in the same room is enough, and some even exert an influence from much further away!

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