Extremely SLOW Powerbook G4

Hi,

I have a 15" Powerbook G4 1.67 with 1.5gb of ram which is about 2 years old. Its been great but I've formatted it about 3 times since buying it for various reasons. Lately I noticed it was getting very slow boot times and certain apps like firefox etc were taking forever to load. After a while i formated it again to get a clean slate. All good so far until a week ago, one day, it took ages to boot after i shut it down. I only had cs2 installed and about 5gb of music (very empty in comparison to my usual load). It started taking so long that i had to force shut it down even before the login screen ever appeared. Once i finally managed to load it up i decided, to format once again to clear whatever it was that was making it so sluggish having already tired pram reset, disk utility permission repairing, disk repairing. While i was installing it restarted as usual only it wasnt getting past the grey screen with apple logo...force shut down (i had to!) a couple of times later still not working...when i timed it, it was over an hour still on that grey screen. It still hadn't finished installing the second disk! Finally managed to get it running and finally get my os to work...SLOWLY!

I really don't know what's wrong. I'm beginning to feel that it's the beginnings of my hard drive failing with the use and old age (and i know that doing all these things to it puts extra strain to it but still!!). I use a work computer most of the time so this one has been limited to after work hours and weekends for a while...so it doesn't seem to justify this behaviour...

I'm running out of ideas to cure this ailment of mine... anyone have similar problems or can think of a solution? I have everythign backed up so its not so urgent/important/life or death in that aspect but i just really want it run smoothly again...

Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions!

*my drive is a toshiba one by the way...saw some post regarding these hard drives once...

Imac 24 inch, Mac OS X (10.4.8), 1bg ram

Posted on Oct 6, 2007 7:46 PM

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Oct 7, 2007 8:47 AM in response to joeuu

Joe,

Thanks for the reply. Yeah all my ram shows up (when i go to system profiler at least). How would I go about cloning it though? As I have just formatted, I have nothing in except the os...so my files don't worry me. Any ideas on where I could get a replacement drive at a good price? Or suggestion of brands? And would I be able to do this myself or needs to be done by Apple? Apple tends to over price these sort of things...

My laptop has been quite well treated (physically at least) and I don't want to replace it, just the hard drive if I have to...

Oct 7, 2007 9:58 AM in response to Daniel Rodrigues

Cloning goes hand-in-hand with backing up:

Thanks to that Tuttle guy for:

Start by formatting your external drive. Select the drive in Disk Utility (the uppermost icon related to the drive), then click the Erase button in the upper middle of the ** window. In the new pane, next to Volume Format, choose to format the drive as Mac OS Extended. You don't need to choose the option to journal the volume at this time.

When creating an initial clone, it's always safe practice to write zeros to the target drive. Click on the Security Options button, choose to write zeros to the drive and click Okay. Then click Erase. Writing zeros may take a couple of hours to do on a 300GB drive, but you just need to do it this once. Afterward, just clicking the Erase button will be sufficient unless bad blocks or similar problems develop in the future. Give the new volume a name that is distinct from the name of your PB's volume (i.e. not Macintosh HD1).

Once the drive is erased and formatted, repair permissions on the source drive, launch SuperDuper! or CCC, set the Source and Target volumes and clone.

One note: In CCC, make sure that the only option you select in CCC's preferences is "Make Bootable." If you use SuperDuper!, you don't have to worry about that (though it will ask you if you are sure that you want to erase the target volume. Choose Yes.)

When the clone is finished, select the new volume in System Preferences > Startup Disk and click Restart. When you've booted into the clone, immediately open System Preferences > Desktop & Screensaver and change the desktop picture so you know which volume you're booted from just by looking. Next, open Disk Utility and repair permissions on the cloned volume. After this, you can click on the Enable Journaling button in the Disk Utility toolbar at the top of the window.

After this, shut down your computer. After two minutes, start up your computer, pressing the Option key immediately after the startup chime. This will take you to the Startup Manager screen where you will choose the cloned volume to start from in order to test whether or not it is truly bootable. If it boots fine, go through it and test some apps to see if everything is in order. If all is well, choose the PB's drive in System Preferences > Startup Disk and restart. When you restart, remember to reselect the PB as the startup volume in System Pref's > Startup Disk as well.

Joe
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Oct 9, 2007 9:22 PM in response to joeuu

I actually came across those a few days ago and seemed to be good. But with your recommendation, all the better! and what exactly is the oxford 911 chipset and what is it for anyway? is this something i should be looking for in future drives?

Here's some updates:

I haven't done the whole cloning experiment yet, but I did do a couple of tests to see if anything came up.

- permission repairs

- disk repair from install disk

- apple hardware test in extensive mode

- file system check while in single user mode

all of these didn't report any problem whatsoever... "...verified...appears to be ok" etc etc

also my SMART status is verified...

Im using it 'normaly' but keeping it light to web browsing and other minor things. no other software installed yet apart from os x.

It makes clicking sounds every so often and whenever i boot it up (do i need to repeat that it takes quite a long time to boot still? but def not 1hr+ anymore!). sometimes for tiny bits others quite long continuous drone...sounds like its really chugging away through the drive. I've heard about the infamous clicking of death but since i have never heard this, i can't say for sure...

and that's that for the time being! if anything worthwhile comes up, i'll post it and thanks for all the help!

Oct 10, 2007 8:30 PM in response to joeuu

OK! Finally I've got something! (I really shouldn't be this happy about what i'm about to write but at least it's something justifiable!!!)

I got this little open source app called SMARTReporter ( http://www.corecode.at/smartreporter/ ) which i had read about before and as i ran it, it immediately said there was an "impending drive failure!" exclamation mark and red disk icon included! So to confirm, I want again to disk utilities and to my surprise it now too said that my drive has "reported fatal hardware error". So even though i'm still using it (as i type), i guess this means it's good time to start saying my goodbyes...

Im not too bummed because i did a backup before this, and am actually glad, in a way, that something tells me that there is a fatal error somewhere! This at least justifies the behaviour that i've been experiencing...

In the meantime i've found 2 hard drives that i'm considering. both 100gb (as opposed to my current 80gb) and 7200 rpm. Hitachi and Seagate. Even though the seagate is a tiny bit pricier it has a 5 year warranty which hitachi doesnt seem to.

anyway here are the links. Opinions and suggestions are welcome!

https://eshop.macsales.com/item/Seagate/ST910021A/

https://eshop.macsales.com/item/Hitachi/0A25015/

Thanks for all the help!

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