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Rollback Firmware Update on MPB

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Angolan Calculating status...
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Oct 11, 2007 10:57 AM
Does anyone know how to rollback a firmware update for the MBP?
Apple did a terrible job on the EFI firmware 1.4 for the MBP and I want to get back to the 1.3 Firmware. Is it possible?
The 1.4 firmware messes with the Windows XP/Vista BootCamp installation: the screen is with”blue fuzz" and it happens with all MBP.
Any help would be much appreciated.
MBP Pro 17" ATI X1600, Windows Vista
  • umparrothead Level 3 Level 3 (535 points)
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    Oct 11, 2007 11:43 AM (in response to Angolan)
    I do not believe there is any standard way of reverting firmware updates. Just as a sidenote, though, you mention "it happens with all MBP", which simply is not true. Many of us on here had no problems with both the OS X and Vista partitions of our computers. There are other threads dealing with similar issues as you describe and you may want to peruse them to see if there is a fix (or even temporary workaround) for your problem.
    As a last resort, you could always call AppleCare or bring your MBP in to an Apple Store and have a Genius look at it.
    MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.10), 2.2 C2D, 2 GB RAM, 160GB 5400rpm, 128MB 8600M GT, 15"
  • gfsdcc Calculating status...
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    Oct 11, 2007 12:51 PM (in response to umparrothead)
    Sorry, but Angolan may be right. umparrothead, I see you have a last generation MBP, for which the 1.4 EFI update is not even applicable. There is a great number of messages on this forum that complain about the issue. As a side note, for many of us, Europeans, Apple is really a disappointment, both regarding quality and customer support. As another side note I believe that the impossibility to undo the EFI and other software updates it's plain stupid, and it doesn't happen in the PC world.
    MacBook Pro 15'' 2.4 GHz, Mac OS X (10.4.10)
  • umparrothead Level 3 Level 3 (535 points)
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    Oct 11, 2007 6:43 PM (in response to gfsdcc)
    Again, I'm sorry for the problems you're having, but all I was trying to say was that even if a bunch of users on these forums are expressing discontent, it still represents only a small percentage of all the MBP users worldwide. Most people come here to talk about what doesn't work right, not what does. Hopefully you find some resolution to these issues, and I completely agree with you about the inability to remove updates.
    MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.10), 2.2 C2D, 2 GB RAM, 160GB 5400rpm, 128MB 8600M GT, 15"
  • neuroanatomist Level 7 Level 7 (31,685 points)
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    Oct 12, 2007 9:17 AM (in response to Angolan)
    And you, of course, have looked at Apple's list of build release dates, are aware that this firmware update applies to MBPs sold from 10/06 - 5/07, and have looked at Apple's sales figures and are aware that this update applies to perhaps 1.2 million MBPs. And your math skills are undoubtedly sufficient to calculate that if that "+fraction of the MBP users has Windows XP/Vista installed with BootCamp+" is a mere 5%, that's 60,000 users. I'm curious - how many of those ~60,000 users are in the group of "+all that I know.+"?

    If Apple releases an update intended specifically to fix issues with BootCamp (as EFI 1.4 is), they've tested it on MBPs with BootCamp. It *does not* affect all MBPs. But they can't test every possible user configuration, every haxie, and whatnot. So, as a result, there will always be some users with specific configurations that are negatively impacted by any update. Perhaps even "+a bunch of users+". Unfortunately, you seem to be one of them, and you do have my sympathy.
    MBP 17" 2.16 GHz CD, 2 GB RAM, 100 GB 7200 rpm HDD, Mac OS X (10.4.10),  since the ][e
  • umparrothead Level 3 Level 3 (535 points)
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    Oct 13, 2007 2:47 PM (in response to Angolan)
    As you mentioned, BootCamp is still in beta, and will not be a full release version until Leopard. I do not believe forum rules allow me to speculate on release dates, but if you do a Google search for it, you'll find many rumors. Also, the Leopard website says that it's coming in October.
    MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.10), 2.2 C2D, 2 GB RAM, 160GB 5400rpm, 128MB 8600M GT, 15"
  • mbpjunkie Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)
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    Oct 18, 2007 3:11 PM (in response to Angolan)
    Dont think there is a rollback patch for firmware.


    And although I haven't had any problems with 1.4, I have seen a bunch of discontent for it.


    And please take into account that this is a support forum. Most, if not all, are probably here for help or support. This forum does not represent most MBP users. This place represents the small percentage of people who have issues.
    MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.10)
  • umparrothead Level 3 Level 3 (535 points)
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    Oct 19, 2007 9:47 AM (in response to Angolan)
    Apple made every effort to inform people using Bootcamp on Tiger that it was an unsupported beta product, which may have any number of issues. For me, I've only got two minor issues with Bootcamp (pre-Leopard), and they aren't showstoppers, but if it suddenly broke, sure, I wouldn't be very happy, but I also wouldn't expect Apple to fix it for me. They aren't the only company to offer free betas and charge for the full version.
    MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.10), 2.2 C2D, 2 GB RAM, 160GB 5400rpm, 128MB 8600M GT, 15"
  • umparrothead Level 3 Level 3 (535 points)
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    Oct 22, 2007 8:48 PM (in response to Angolan)
    I agree about the firmware, don't get me wrong...it's the software I wouldn't expect support to be that stellar for. The two issues I mentioned are that when I boot into Vista, it always assumes I'm on battery. To resolve, I just pop out the Magsafe and plug it back in, then it switches to electric properly. My other issue is that the Bootcamp drivers don't yet support tap-clicking, but that affects everyone, and not just me. Do you notice that driver getting better signal than the standard one? My Airport works much better under Tiger than in Vista (mainly signal strength).
    MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.10), 2.2 C2D, 2 GB RAM, 160GB 5400rpm, 128MB 8600M GT, 15"
  • KonradC Calculating status...
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    Oct 24, 2007 8:21 PM (in response to mbpjunkie)
    from all of the posts I have read, this seems to be localized to 17" MBP's. Ours sufferes from the same problem and was running perfectly before the firmware update. If this is a move to force a leopard upgrade, it's very underhanded. I for one cannot move to leopard because of softare incompatibilities with the new OS, however this EFI update pretty much trashed our machine. The only reason we even installed the update is because it seemed iWork 08' seemed to require it.
    MP quad3.0/MBP dc2.33 17"/MBP dc 2.33 15"/G5 dual1.8, Mac OS X (10.4.10)
  • umparrothead Level 3 Level 3 (535 points)
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    Oct 27, 2007 1:37 PM (in response to KonradC)
    I don't know how successful it would be, but maybe try calling AppleCare and explain your problem, but imply you're running Leopard (therefore, a non-beta and supported version of BootCamp).
    MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.10), 2.2 C2D, 2 GB RAM, 160GB 5400rpm, 128MB 8600M GT, 15"
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