9 Replies Latest reply: Nov 23, 2007 6:57 PM by James Ehrler1
pardthemonster Level 4 Level 4 (1,140 points)
I have seen a few posts stating that screen sharing can connect to a 10.4.10 machine. I have had no success. Anyone have any success?

iMac 20" 2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB Ram, ATI Radeon X1600 256MB, Mac OS X (10.5), Harman Kardon SoundSticks II, AirPort Express, iPod 5G
  • MarkJones Level 6 Level 6 (10,060 points)
  • pardthemonster Level 4 Level 4 (1,140 points)
    You may want to read my post again before you start typing. As I said, I'm trying to connect to a 10.4.10 machine using 10.5's screen sharing feature. I can with a VNC client on this machine to connect to it successfully, but I'm still unsuccessful with leopard's screen sharing feature. Has anyone been successful, or were the other peoples posts about it being possible just bogus??
  • pardthemonster Level 4 Level 4 (1,140 points)
  • Patrick Ellis1 Level 3 Level 3 (750 points)
    it's not bogus - it works fine.

    On your 10.4.10 Mac
    - open the "Sharing" System Preference.
    - Under the 'Services' tab, enable 'Apple Remote Desktop'
    - Click the 'Access Privileges' button
    - Enable the User/account that you will use for access

    For the "Allow user to do the following..." I've enabled everything although I think it's more geared towards ARD manager. My "VNC viewers may control screen" is enabled but that was done prior to 10.5 when I was using Chicken of the Sea for a VNC connection. I don't think it's required with Leopard's client since the password that I used for that option is not what I'm using now.

    With this set, the name of your 10.4.10 Mac should automatically appear in the sidebar of a Finder window under "SHARED". Click on that and then the 'Share Screen" button in the upper right hand corner of the window.

    Interesting to note: Users have mentioned in other parts of the Leopard forum having to type the full name with the account password to use screen sharing with 2 Leopard clients. For me, when connecting from a 10.5 to 10.4.x client, I have to use the short name and password.

    One other note: if the network Mac that you are trying to access is asleep, this won't work. To resolve this, I use a little application called 'WakeOnLan'
  • pardthemonster Level 4 Level 4 (1,140 points)
    For the record this is what must be done under "Access Privileges..." on the Apple Remote Desktop Sharing settings (10.4.10):

    If you have any VNC client such as "Chicken of the VNC," "VNC viewers may control screen with password" is all that is needed to be checked along with a password supplied in THE BOX next to it. This is the password that must be supplied when connecting.

    If you are using 10.5's Screen Sharing feature, you need to check the user to "On" and select "Observe" and/or "Control." Note that the user name (long or short) and password are those of the checked users (See "On" previously)

    I must say that Screen Sharing is much faster than VNC clients from my experience so far!
  • stmidnite Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    This works fine for me. But what if I wanna do the opposite?

    Can I use my Tiger to view the Leopard? What settings to set and how to see a Leopard machine on a Tiger machine?

    Help, thanks in advance.

    P.S. Screen Sharing is VERY COOL and easy to setup. Just that I can't upgrade my production Mac with Tiger to Leopard yet.
  • Patrick Ellis1 Level 3 Level 3 (750 points)
    stmidnite wrote:
    Can I use my Tiger to view the Leopard? What settings to set and how to see a Leopard machine on a Tiger machine?

    Yes you can but you will need to download a separate VNC client for Tiger (I use JollyFastVNC)

    1. /System Preferences/Sharing -> enable 'Screen Sharing'
    2. Click on 'Computer Settings...' and enable 'VNC viewers may control screen with password:'
    (I use a different one than the actual account)

    Note: you can specify what users are permitted access although I haven't tried that.

    3. If you have your Firewall running, you'll need to either enable the 'Allow all incoming connections' or, as I use, 'Set access for specific services and applications' - the later of which allows connections only for the sharing services that you are running.

    4. In your Tiger VNC client, you should see the name of the 10.5 Mac. Click on it and then the connect button. Input your password and you should be up and running.
  • stmidnite Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thanks, Patrick!

    I missed out on Step. 2
  • James Ehrler1 Level 1 Level 1 (60 points)
    I am sooo confused.

    I turned on Apple Remote Desktop on two of our Tiger desktops as I want to be able to share straight from the Finder without having to launch a vnc client.

    On one of them it works without issue, just having Remote Desktop enabled along with the corresponding Remote Desktop Firewall exceptions. Boom, it shows up in my Leopard Finder and, when I click the begin sharing button, boom, it begins.

    On the other, when I tried to do the same I was unable to connect. The Leopard Finder sees that sharing is enabled and offers the button to begin, and launches the Screen Sharing app, but it keeps timing out. It never makes a connection.

    Finally, in desperation, I decided to try using a VNC client on the recalcitrant machine and so enabled the VNC exception in addition to the Remote Desktop one in the Tiger Firewall. Shazam, not only does my Leopard machine show this machine, but Screen Sharing works correctly.

    To try and fix this so it worked without the vnc hole, I eventually did an Archive Install but still no joy.

    It works, yes, but I can't figure out why I need this separate Firewall hole in the one machine and not the other. Both are running 10.4.11.