Macbook Pro (Leopard) will not shutdown or restart

Many times (but not 100% of the time) when I go to the apple and select Restart, Leopard does its thing and the dock disappears and after about 15 or 20 seconds my screen goes black. I assume at this point that the machine will reboot. It does NOT. The screen stays black and I can hear the hard drive still running, and it will stay like this forever. (I left it for 30 min to test it and it never restarted.)

The same problem also happens when I select Shutdown, except it only happens about half the time.

Any help would be awesome, especially from Apple techs. Thanks.

Macbook Pro 15 inch, Mac OS X (10.5)

Posted on Oct 30, 2007 6:47 PM

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Oct 31, 2007 10:03 AM in response to Dion Rodrigues

I did a clean install and I have the same problems. In addition, my MacBook Pro now has a hard time waking up from sleep mode. 90% of the time, when it does wake up, the mouse that's plugged into the left USB port will cease to function. I know the port isn't bad because I can plug in a USB pen drive and it works just fine. If I move the same mouse to the right USB port, it works! Move it back to the one it was in and it doesn't. I love the look of Leopard, but I never had any of these problems with Tiger. Everything I described started happening the day that I installed Leopard.

Nov 1, 2007 9:46 AM in response to pmullins

SAME. I reinstalled Leopard last night, and I still have the problems. It would not even reboot successfully right after finishing installing Leopard. I did the reinstall, then I selected restart....and I let it sit for 6 hours. (seriously, i went to sleep). I checked it in the morning and it was still on with a black screen.
ANY suggestions? I'm gonna call Apple soon.

Nov 2, 2007 2:09 AM in response to alpaca09

Same problem here, MacBook Pro after Leopard upgrade refuses to shutdown or reboot, everything closes down leaving the wallpaper and the spinning black timer that you normally see on the initial boot screen. Only fix is to hit and hold down the power button.
There are a number of threads on here about this now - all with some suggestions - removal of all USB devices (and then try that), trashing the energy saver plists (works once then fails) and someone suggesting that its the result of changing the system name post Leopard upgrade (which I did as the default local name was incorrect - problem is I can't remember what the default .locla name was so unable to test this one!).

Nov 2, 2007 2:43 AM in response to alpaca09

Hi

A possibility is a daemon or other process running that is related an app that isn't fully compatible with Leopard. Check all active process in Activity Monitor, messages in Console and try removing diverse login items from Accounts in System Preferences.

Haven't got Leopard myself yet, so if I have referred to something that is obsolete in Leopard please forgive me.

Matthew Whiting

Nov 2, 2007 7:02 AM in response to alpaca09

I have exactly the same issue here and Apple could not help at all despite trying very hard. So far I have tried all the following measures:

1. Reset SMC
2. Reset NVRAM
3. Check and Repair Disk Permissions
4. Check and Repair Disk
5. Uncheck LOGIN items.
6. Created new User Account
7. Force Quit all running applications
8. Archive and Install after checking Install disk for consistency
9. Applied two most recent Leopard updates
10. Backed up, deleted and recreated partition, followed by Erase and Install after checking install disk for consistency. Lost Bootcamp with Windows partition in the process. Re-installed software and Apple updates.

NOTHING WORKS. At least nothing lets you successfully SHUT DOWN or RESTART twice in a row.

All this has taken close to 14 hours; just one of the phone calls lasted 1hr 45min. Of course, since I am a recent convert to Apple (from MS Windows) I am psychologically prepared for much worse. I called Apple twice, once Level 2 Support. It is frustrating that they do not listen but follow a script. I told them about many of the things I had tried on my own (items 1, 2 and 3 in the list) but they made me redo them again. The level 2 guy suggested the Erase and Install (after deleting partition).

I know that if I call again they will tell me it is a hardware problem (they kind of already did) and ask me to mail in the computer or bring it to a store. And I know that is not true since everything was A-OK with Tiger.

I have finally understood the difference between Apple and Microsoft. Microsoft rarely works out of the box and fails often but mostly you know what is wrong and with time and effort can fix it. There is a culture of things breaking so there is a culture of fixing. Apple just works most of the time but when something is broken no one (not even Mac Geniuses and Level Two support people) really knows what is going on. So when thigs break they follow robotic scripts and eventually blame everything on hardware which they might replace. There is no culture of things breaking so there is no culture of fixing. A similar thing happened when my Macbook was brand new. The wireless connection (Airport) would drop connection unexpectedly when running on battery. Nothing worked and Apple suggested a motherboard replacement (blame the hardware) but I knew from the forums that people had the problem even after such replacement and desisted. Instead I set up a constant PING to keep the connection alive or exclusively used AC power. One day, a firmware update arrived and everything was A-OK. Then as now, no one really seemed to know what was going on, hardware was blamed and there was a refusal to admit that the problem was widespread. Even though I provided forum links to them where people were posting they ignored it. **** one guy even had a "How To" page with the PING hack.


The best strategy people: LIVE WITH IT. The magicians who write OS X will eventually cook up a patch which will silently fix it. I love the rest of Leopard. I hardly ever need to SHUT DOWN or RESTART anyway. So don't waste your time discussing the issue with tech support: THEY ARE AS CLUELESS AS YOU. If you must, discuss it on this forum kinda like a support group. Patience and time will heal all. And post any hacks if you know they will work.

All this has moved me to make a philosophical observation:

Apple is like the Garden of Eden before Adam climbed the Tree of Knowledge. It's perfect but you live in ignorance. Microsoft is like the same garden after Adam bit into that apple. You suffer but you are blessed with gift of knowledge. Perhaps this explains why most Macs are white and PCs black.

The choice is yours.

JR

Nov 3, 2007 1:34 PM in response to lensman2001

Excellent post! I am sorry that you went through that hassle, but you have at least dissuaded me from wasting my Saturday going through the same ordeal. I have also tried a number of the things on your list with no luck. As you say, hopefully they will silently fix the problem... Like Windows, there seems to be no horrible adverse effects from forcing the computer Off with the power button, except once when it BEEPed at me...I was terribly insulted. 🙂
I will speak to my friend, the guru of Macs, and if he has any useful solutions or suggestions, I will dutifully report back to this thread.
Sincerely yours.

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