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Q: Permissions Repair Error: ARDAgent.app

I get this warning when I try to repair permissions.

Warning: SUID file "System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAg ent" has been modified and will not be repaired.

Any ideas as to why?

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MacBook Pro (1st gen), Mac OS X (10.5)

Posted on Oct 31, 2007 12:26 AM

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  • by KJK555,

    KJK555 KJK555 Nov 7, 2007 11:46 AM in response to Michael Mortilla
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    Nov 7, 2007 11:46 AM in response to Michael Mortilla
    Surely, be glad to share.

    Be sure you are using the latest version of Pacifist (2.5.1), (an earlier version probably won't work).

    Insert leopard dvd.

    Click the "Open Apple Install Discs" button

    A window will pop up that says: Please choose the Apple install package to open
    Select: OS Install - Mac OS X and standard applications (Mac OS X Install DVD)
    Click "Choose" to continue.

    A small progress window will pop up. It will take a minute or two to load
    An install window will open after loading listing the packages available for install.
    On the menu in the "find" box type "ARDAgent.app"

    It will find and highlight the ARDAgent.app for you
    right click (or control-click) the highlighted app.
    a small menu will open
    select "Install to Default Location"

    After it finishes installing, close everything and reboot!
    Enjoy!
  • by Michael Mortilla,

    Michael Mortilla Michael Mortilla Nov 7, 2007 11:50 AM in response to KJK555
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    Nov 7, 2007 11:50 AM in response to KJK555
    Excellent. Yes, I'm up to date on my apps.

    Thanks a bunch!
  • by MarkDouma®,

    MarkDouma® MarkDouma® Nov 7, 2007 12:25 PM in response to William Lloyd
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    Nov 7, 2007 12:25 PM in response to William Lloyd
    lol, exactly.

    sigh

    Folks, I've been using Leopard for the last 5 to 6 months. That warning is not anything to worry about, nor are any ACL warnings, or 95% of the other things Repair Permissions states.

    Folks, sorry, but your assumptions about how long Disk Utility should take to repair permissions (based on OS X 10.4.x and prior) are just plain wrong.
  • by Michael Mortilla,

    Michael Mortilla Michael Mortilla Nov 7, 2007 12:34 PM in response to MarkDouma®
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    Nov 7, 2007 12:34 PM in response to MarkDouma®
    I don't care how long disk permissions take or if one or more files are reported unrepairable (as long as it is not critical). But the fact that I am shaving a few minutes off my boot times is significant to me.
  • by Michael Mortilla,

    Michael Mortilla Michael Mortilla Nov 7, 2007 2:50 PM in response to KJK555
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    Nov 7, 2007 2:50 PM in response to KJK555
    Yep, that did it. Permissions are now correct.

    Thanks bud!
  • by Charly Avital,

    Charly Avital Charly Avital Nov 8, 2007 7:47 PM in response to William Rivas
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    Nov 8, 2007 7:47 PM in response to William Rivas
    Although the message from Apple is reassuring, I wanted to check what would happen if I replaced ARDAgent.app v3.2.1 (installed by Software Update immediately upon upgrading from Tiger-erase-and-install,) with the previous version 3.2 that came with the Leopard DVD install.
    Before that, I tried to repair permissions in Terminal '$ sudo diskutil repairPermissions /', when the new version was present and active, and got the same results as reported by other forum members who used Disk Utility, the warning etc...
    After replacing v3.2.1 with 3.2 and restarted, the same command in Terminal gave a clean output.
    I launched Software Install, and it brought the 3.2.1 update, which I didn't run, and I have still v3.2.
    I believe this means that Apple has not discarded this update from its Software Update servers, and there must be a good reason for that, not negligence or overview.

    The blurb that came with the 3.2.1 update reads: "Apple Remote Desktop 3.2 Client Update
    The 3.2 client update is recommended for all users and addresses numerous issues related to overall reliability, usability and compatibility.
    NOTE: It is recommended that Apple Remote Desktop version 3.2 Clients can only be managed by Apple Remote Desktop version 3.2 Administration software. Please ensure that you have upgraded your Apple Remote Desktop Administration software to version 3.2 before upgrading your clients.
    For detailed information on this update, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n306490"

    I am not using Apple Remote Desktop, and I am not experiencing any of the possible problems detailed in the above link. On the contrary, everything seems to run extremely well.
    I am not going to recommend to restore v3.2 or to install 3.2.1. I have this Macbook Intel Core 2 Duo running with ARDAagent.app 3.2, and a Powerbook PPC running version 3.2.1 (where Disk Utility's output when repairing permissions has indicated all the warnings that have already been reported by other forum members.
    I hope this will enable me to compare, although we are talking about totally different CPUs.

    I do hope Apple kicks in any time soon with a practical solution that would be better than its previous reassuring message.
  • by William Lloyd,

    William Lloyd William Lloyd Nov 8, 2007 7:51 PM in response to Michael Mortilla
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    Nov 8, 2007 7:51 PM in response to Michael Mortilla
    "A few minutes?"

    I don't believe you, that this is the cause of several minutes of delay. I have this error and my boots on both machines are plenty fast -- as fast or faster than Tiger.

    Ever look at the console log during startup and see if there are any messages indicating what the problem specifically is?
  • by Michael Mortilla,

    Michael Mortilla Michael Mortilla Nov 8, 2007 8:09 PM in response to William Lloyd
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    Nov 8, 2007 8:09 PM in response to William Lloyd
    It takes about 3 minutes to boot. The delay went away right after I deleted the file and is now back that I reinstalled it with Pacifist (although repair permissions doesn't show an error). Since there is the boot delay again, I am probably going to go ahead with the Software Update install of the file and see what happens. I'm one of those gullible people who actually take Apple at their word that the updates are a good thing

    But I am not really asking you to believe me that the boot takes that long, just reporting what is going on. If you really want me to show you, I suppose I can make a movie and upload it to my server? (Not.)

    As far as the console log, I am happy to dig that out and tell you what it says. I'm a little unsure of what that actually means as I am not really that savvy at the internal workings of the OS. but seriously, I would be happy to post that for you if you're really interested.
  • by William Lloyd,

    William Lloyd William Lloyd Nov 8, 2007 8:15 PM in response to Michael Mortilla
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    Nov 8, 2007 8:15 PM in response to Michael Mortilla
    If you open up Console in /Applications/Utilities and click on the "All Messages" option, you should see a bunch of stuff, for example here's what I see when coming out of sleep:

    11/8/07 5:40:35 PM kernel AFPSleepWakeHandler: going to sleep
    11/8/07 5:40:36 PM kernel hibernate image path: /var/vm/sleepimage
    11/8/07 5:40:36 PM kernel sizeof(IOHibernateImageHeader) == 512
    11/8/07 5:40:36 PM kernel Opened file /var/vm/sleepimage, size 2147483648, partition base 0xc805000, maxio 400000
    11/8/07 5:40:36 PM kernel hibernate image major 14, minor 2, blocksize 512, pollers 4
    11/8/07 5:40:36 PM kernel hibernateallocpages flags 00000000, gobbling 0 pages
    11/8/07 5:40:36 PM kernel 11D beacon causing regdomain change to CC 840
    11/8/07 5:40:36 PM kernel en1: 802.11d country code set to 'US'.
    11/8/07 5:40:36 PM kernel en1: Supported channels 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 36 40 44 48 52 56 60 64 149 153 157 161 165
    11/8/07 5:40:38 PM kernel System SafeSleep
    11/8/07 7:22:03 PM kernel hibernatepage_listsetall start
    11/8/07 7:22:03 PM kernel hibernatepage_listsetall time: 256 ms

    If you check the entries that happen right after you start the machine, and see a big pause in there, perhaps you'll get an idea as to what's snarfing up that 3 minutes.
  • by KJK555,

    KJK555 KJK555 Nov 8, 2007 8:44 PM in response to Michael Mortilla
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    Nov 8, 2007 8:44 PM in response to Michael Mortilla
    Hi Micheal:
    1. Did you upgrade or fresh install?

    2. Have you tried cleaning the caches?
  • by Andrew Gilligan,

    Andrew Gilligan Andrew Gilligan Nov 8, 2007 9:06 PM in response to MikeyPD
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    Nov 8, 2007 9:06 PM in response to MikeyPD
    The topic for this thread should be: "How to break parts of your OS for no good reason"

    Seriously people, this is a non-issue - most of you have no idea what you're talking about or doing, and are giving damaging advice to others. Stop it.

    Disk Utility has a database of what it thinks permissions should be - nothing more. If that database is wrong, or hasn't been updated after a package upgrade, then any warnings given by Disk Utility are therefore wrong also.

    ARDAgent.app is part of the Remote Desktop (Screen Sharing) components of Mac OS X Leopard, and deleting it (which many of you have suggested) will only cause problems. Others have suggested deleting it and installing the original version that came on the install DVD, which again, is just going to cause you more problems.

    The Remote Desktop update fixed a number of real problems with the version that shipped with Leopard, but in doing so it didn't correctly update the permissions database that Disk Utility uses. That's all.

    Move along... Nothing to see here...
  • by FlynLow,

    FlynLow FlynLow Nov 8, 2007 10:09 PM in response to Andrew Gilligan
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    Nov 8, 2007 10:09 PM in response to Andrew Gilligan
    I agree not a real problem, but a lot of people are learning how to work around problems and fixing things the way they want. So I applaud all the "fixes" posted. IMHO
  • by Charly Avital,

    Charly Avital Charly Avital Nov 8, 2007 10:43 PM in response to FlynLow
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    Nov 8, 2007 10:43 PM in response to FlynLow
    I agree it is not a real problem. I also agree it was a good thing that people thought of a work around...to a non existing problem. Be be that as it may, I believe Apple has the obligation to kick in with a practical solution, an update to Disk Utility or whatever medicine that will remedy the problem, and not only Prozac style reassuring documents.

    And let's keep smiling, really.
  • by KJK555,

    KJK555 KJK555 Nov 8, 2007 11:21 PM in response to Charly Avital
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    Nov 8, 2007 11:21 PM in response to Charly Avital
    Yep that's right it's not a real problem, only an "imaginary" one kinda like the "imaginary" problems with Apple's first release of the 10.4.10 Tiger combo update that mysteriously disappeared off Apple's server only to be replaced the 10.4.10 combo update v1.1.

    I still have a copy of that "imaginary" update. Since there is nothing wrong with it but "imaginary" problems, I'll be glad to share it with anyone that will settle for nothing less than the all original copy of the 10.4.10 combo update!

    You have only to promise me that you will never ever use any other 10.4.10 update except this original copy on any of your computers.
  • by Charly Avital,

    Charly Avital Charly Avital Nov 9, 2007 2:39 AM in response to KJK555
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    Nov 9, 2007 2:39 AM in response to KJK555
    I solemnly promise, and let the Gremlins of cyberspace, as well as The Force (be with you), be witnesses to that promise.
    Now seriously: IF Apple's Disk Utility is affected with some "bug" related to its data base, as it has been suggested, why did I get the same warnings when repairing permissions through Terminal, by command line instruction? There's something wrong with Terminal's database? I know very little about the Terminal, and have learned how to manage with it, but I don't know about Terminal's bugs. Maybe there are.

    And more seriously: please, everybody, don't answers those questions, let's drop this matter, and contemplate a placid week end?
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