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Nikon D3/D300 RAW

9259 Views 119 Replies Latest reply: Dec 20, 2007 7:58 AM by Janet Taylor RSS
  • e2photo Level 2 Level 2 (165 points)
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    Nov 19, 2007 4:37 PM (in response to Keith Barkley)
    If my memory serves me correctly, the D200 was introduced in a similar time (Nov/Dec). I ordered and received one in late Feb/March and Aperture learned how to handle the RAW files sometime in April with an OS update. My recommendation-patience..or at least don't hold your breathe.....

    But maybe 10.5.1 does things differently and with speed.
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  • Thierry Leveque Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Nov 21, 2007 6:45 AM (in response to Kevin J. Doyle)
    Well the new Sony Alpha-700 IS released since mid September and still no support of the RAW format for it! And it is already supported by all Adobe software.

    So yes, I was a Nikon user waiting for the D300 or the D3 I would worry a lot!!
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  • Keith Barkley Level 5 Level 5 (5,140 points)
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    Nov 21, 2007 8:49 AM (in response to e2photo)
    This is the one I was talking about, released in Nov of 2006:
    http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/digitalcamerarawsupportupdate101universal .html

    It provided support for the Digital Rebel Xti.
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  • Jim Ogilvie Calculating status...
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    Nov 21, 2007 11:25 AM (in response to spmartin)
    Thats very optimistic.

    The Sony A700 has been available since late September and has not seen RAW support in Aperture yet. Sony is also a key Apple partner - so Steve Jobs has said.
    Dual 2.0 G5, MacBook, Mac OS X (10.4.7)
  • philgross Calculating status...
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    Nov 21, 2007 4:01 PM (in response to Jim Ogilvie)
    This is a bit depressing. I've grown fairly dependent on Aperture over the past year, but my D300 is arriving on Friday, and I'm not going to be using my D70 much after that. I'm sure Apple is working on support, but it's not like I can stop working and wait for them. People are laughing at the idea of supporting the RAW format before the camera is released, but Adobe managed to do it.

    As a software engineer, I find it difficult to imagine that support for a new RAW format requires a new Core Image release. Entangling the various RAW handler modules with the main body of code would be poor architecture indeed.

    Anyway, I'm an Aperture fan, and I've recommended it to others, but if Apple's standard practice is to let early-adopter types twist in the wind for months on end (my sympathies to you A700 folks), that may be a fatal blow against my continued use of it...
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  • Steve_D300 Calculating status...
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    Nov 21, 2007 9:42 PM (in response to LilleJente)
    Well here I am with my new D300 no Raw support in Aperture, and now that I upgraded to Leopard Nikon transfer or Nikon view will work with the new operating system. I love Aperture but I think I will learn Lightroom and see where that takes me.
    Macbook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.1)
  • Janet Taylor Level 2 Level 2 (155 points)
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    Nov 22, 2007 4:28 AM (in response to Steve_D300)
    Be aware, Lightroom may have D300 support, but they still haven't got printing working under leopard on most printers. (Also, if it has the same nasty white balance that it does for other nikon models, I'm pretty sure you'll be back ; ) ) Can't hurt to learn, though. If it were me I'd use Capture NX to develop them until apple gets their act together, which I agree they should do a heck of a lot faster than they usually do.

    Pretty exciting getting one of the first D300s! I'm envious.

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  • Andreas Yankopolus Level 2 Level 2 (410 points)
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    Nov 22, 2007 7:18 AM (in response to Steve_D300)
    Replace "Nikon D300" with "Olympus E-3" and you have my situation. We have a Barbados vacation in the beginning of December and I'm photographing a wedding toward the end. JPEG isn't going to cut it for these events.

    Time to check out the competing programs that already support my camera. Apple will hopefully release a fix before the 30-day trial on them runs out, as I really do want to stick with it.

    I hope that you're enjoying your D300!

    Cheers,

    Andreas
    MacBook Pro 2.0 GHz Core Duo w/ 2 GB, Mac OS X (10.5.1)
  • ronraley Calculating status...
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    Nov 22, 2007 7:32 AM (in response to Steve_D300)
    My plan for D3 arrival if Aperture's not up to speed yet is to shoot in RAW+JPEG, store the RAW files separately, manage the JPEGs in Aperture, and if I need to work on a RAW file before Aperture is compatible, do it in Capture NX. After Aperture is compatible move the RAWs into the library and compare the one's I've worked on in Capture to what Aperture can do to be sure that Apple got the RAW developing right.
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  • ronraley Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Nov 22, 2007 7:52 AM (in response to ronraley)
    See this thread for ideas on RAW+JPEG workflow:

    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1237070&tstart=75
    MP2.66, 2GB, x1900xt, Raptor 150, Seagate 500, WD 300 and some firewire drives, Mac OS X (10.4.7)
  • Andreas Yankopolus Level 2 Level 2 (410 points)
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    Nov 22, 2007 7:56 AM (in response to ronraley)
    Ron,

    The problem is that none of the metadata entered for the JPEG master is transferred to the RAW one

    Cheers,

    Andreas
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  • bariti Calculating status...
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    Nov 22, 2007 10:52 AM (in response to LilleJente)
    i bought my d300 yesterday,( do not get your hopes up i have been on the waiting list for 4 months). i have both aperture and lightroom and i can say that i prefer aperture and use it as my default. but aperture DOES NOT recognize D300 raw files. so until it does i am forced to use the lightroom. i do not know what is wrong with apple and these updates but i believe if they want to be stable in this industry they have to catch up with the technology. Nikon D3 and D300 are on backorder for at least 3 months. this means there will be a lot of pros who have these cameras in the near future and i bet the ones who use aperture will be ******, as i am.
    imac 2.8, Mac OS X (10.5.1)
  • photog999 Calculating status...
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    Nov 22, 2007 12:51 PM (in response to LilleJente)
    I too purchased my D300 yesterday and have tried a few test shots and imported them into Aperture. as previously indicated there is no RAW support for this new format, but it does of course support JPEG. now I am shooting in RAW/JPEG and both files import, however JPEG photos appear normal and RAW photo's appear w/ the notation unsupported format on each frame.

    My thought behind using the dual format is that when Apple supports this RAW format, the unsupported files already imported will be visible and usable. In the interim I will still see the photo's in JPEG along side the unsupported RAW file. This way I won't have to use yet another program and everything will be imported and in place when the new format is supported...then I would delete all the JPEGs.

    This may or may not be a good strategy.
    Mac G5 Non-Intel, Mac OS X (10.5)
  • Janet Taylor Level 2 Level 2 (155 points)
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    Nov 22, 2007 1:13 PM (in response to photog999)
    photog999, I think that sounds like a great strategy. You can still apply keywords and ratings to unsupported files, and you can lift and stamp any adjustments made from the jpegs to the unsupported files, so as soon as D300/D3 recognition comes, you'll be golden.
    MBP Core 2 Duo 2.33 GHz 3GB RAM, Cintiq 21 Mac OS X (10.5), Mac OS X (10.5)
  • Mark Florida Calculating status...
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    Nov 22, 2007 9:18 PM (in response to LilleJente)
    I'm one of the lucky ones that scored a D300 yesterday (got the last one at a local dealer). I've been waiting a long time to make the jump to a DSLR, and the D300 was the camera with the right mix of features, performance, and price to make me take the leap.

    I'm using Lightroom now for my RAW processing and workflow, but was REALLY hoping to give Aperture a try -- it has plugins that I'd really like to use (Flickr, Gallery, and FTP) that aren't available for Lightroom.

    I sure hope Apple is on top of this and releases and update SOON.

    Guess I can use the Nikon software to convert to TIFF first to see what Aperture's like, eh? Seems like a crappy workaround hack...
    MacBook Pro 1.83 GHz Core Duo, Mac OS X (10.4.11)
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