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  • SierraDragon Level 4 Level 4 (2,695 points)
    Nikon now provides via a software update a "D2X Mode" Picture Control option.

    I do not know what issues if any it solves, but early adopters of D300 and D3 cameras should investigate.

    -Allen Wicks
  • Eoin Kavanagh Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)
    While you guys are waiting for official apple support for your D3/D300 cameras perhaps you'd like to hack your raw.plist file and add support for the cameras. Then you'd have to run the NEF's through Adobe DNG Converter and import the DNG's into aperture.

    I've described the process in this thread for the E3 http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1264694&tstart=30 and the process is very much the same except for the entry you need to paste in to the raw.plist file.

    Below are 2 entries for Leopard, one for the D3 and the other for the D300. If you use Tiger you will need to change the camera names to read NIKON-D3 or NIKON-D300. The capitals and minus are important. Again refer to the thread regarding the E3 for details.

    Adjust your brightness, saturation and contrast to taste and you should be good to go.

    Hope this helps while your waiting........

    <key>Nikon D3</key>
    <dict>
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    <real>-0.75</real>
    <key>black0</key>
    <integer>3</integer>
    <key>black1</key>
    <integer>6</integer>
    <key>black2</key>
    <integer>3</integer>
    <key>cnacc</key>
    <real>0.00057870000000000003</real>
    <key>cnadc</key>
    <real>0.27190999999999999</real>
    <key>cnaec</key>
    <real>0.029999999999999999</real>
    <key>cnat</key>
    <integer>0</integer>
    <key>cnbcc</key>
    <real>4.5800000000000002e-05</real>
    <key>cnbdc</key>
    <real>0.12139999999999999</real>
    <key>cnbec</key>
    <real>-82.400999999999996</real>
    <key>cnbt</key>
    <integer>1</integer>
    <key>esein_0</key>
    <real>2.04</real>
    <key>esein_1</key>
    <real>2.04</real>
    <key>esein_2</key>
    <real>2.5</real>
    <key>eseth</key>
    <real>1.3</real>
    <key>esint</key>
    <real>0.70999999999999996</real>
    <key>esrad</key>
    <real>1.7</real>
    <key>gresc</key>
    <real>3.0600000000000001</real>
    <key>m1</key>
    <array>
    <real>0.93359999999999999</real>
    <real>-0.34050000000000002</real>
    <real>0.0014</real>
    <real>-0.73199999999999998</real>
    <real>1.4779</real>
    <real>0.27629999999999999</real>
    <real>-0.091399999999999995</real>
    <real>0.1171</real>
    <real>0.82479999999999998</real>
    </array>
    <key>m2</key>
    <array>
    <real>0.81389999999999996</real>
    <real>-0.21709999999999999</real>
    <real>-0.066299999999999998</real>
    <real>-0.87470000000000003</real>
    <real>1.6540999999999999</real>
    <real>0.22950000000000001</real>
    <real>-0.1925</real>
    <real>0.20080000000000001</real>
    <real>0.80930000000000002</real>
    </array>
    <key>max0</key>
    <integer>4095</integer>
    <key>max1</key>
    <integer>3981</integer>
    <key>max2</key>
    <integer>4095</integer>
    <key>mc</key>
    <real>0.68322000000000005</real>
    <key>nek1</key>
    <real>0.0014</real>
    <key>nek2</key>
    <real>0.00027300000000000002</real>
    <key>nek3</key>
    <real>-3.6e-09</real>
    <key>nek4</key>
    <real>0.9869</real>
    <key>nek5</key>
    <real>0.022005</real>
    <key>nek6</key>
    <real>0.0017120512000000001</real>
    <key>otrc</key>
    <array>
    <real>0.25</real>
    <real>0.14199999999999999</real>
    <real>1.986</real>
    <real>0.32700000000000001</real>
    <real>1.605</real>
    <real>0.68999999999999995</real>
    <real>0.84399999999999997</real>
    <real>0.44400000000000001</real>
    </array>
    <key>scal1</key>
    <real>0.33000000000000002</real>
    <key>spknd_1</key>
    <integer>3</integer>
    <key>spknd_2</key>
    <integer>3</integer>
    <key>spt1_1</key>
    <real>425</real>
    <key>spt1_2</key>
    <real>225</real>
    <key>spt2_1</key>
    <real>15</real>
    <key>spt2_2</key>
    <real>21.199999999999999</real>
    <key>white</key>
    <integer>3880</integer>
    </dict>







    <key>Nikon D300</key>
    <dict>
    <key>bexp</key>
    <real>-0.5</real>
    <key>black0</key>
    <integer>10</integer>
    <key>black1</key>
    <integer>12</integer>
    <key>black2</key>
    <integer>10</integer>
    <key>cnacc</key>
    <real>0.0015116999999999999</real>
    <key>cnadc</key>
    <real>0.17868000000000001</real>
    <key>cnaec</key>
    <real>0.029999999999999999</real>
    <key>cnat</key>
    <integer>0</integer>
    <key>cnbcc</key>
    <real>0.00035419999999999999</real>
    <key>cnbdc</key>
    <real>0.041790000000000001</real>
    <key>cnbec</key>
    <real>-51.328000000000003</real>
    <key>cnbt</key>
    <integer>1</integer>
    <key>esein_0</key>
    <real>2.6200000000000001</real>
    <key>esein_1</key>
    <real>2.6200000000000001</real>
    <key>esein_2</key>
    <real>2.7000000000000002</real>
    <key>eseth</key>
    <real>3.96</real>
    <key>esint</key>
    <real>0.5</real>
    <key>gresc</key>
    <real>3.3999999999999999</real>
    <key>m1</key>
    <array>
    <real>1.0353000000000001</real>
    <real>-0.34010000000000001</real>
    <real>0.0054999999999999997</real>
    <real>-0.71109999999999995</real>
    <real>1.4626999999999999</real>
    <real>0.27029999999999998</real>
    <real>-0.1351</real>
    <real>0.2011</real>
    <real>0.85289999999999999</real>
    </array>
    <key>m2</key>
    <array>
    <real>0.90300000000000002</real>
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    <real>-0.84650000000000003</real>
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    <real>0.22550000000000001</real>
    <real>-0.26889999999999997</real>
    <real>0.32169999999999999</real>
    <real>0.80689999999999995</real>
    </array>
    <key>max0</key>
    <integer>4095</integer>
    <key>max1</key>
    <integer>4015</integer>
    <key>max2</key>
    <integer>4095</integer>
    <key>mc</key>
    <array>
    <real>0.96619999999999995</real>
    <real>0.060400000000000002</real>
    <real>-0.080500000000000002</real>
    <real>-0.0252</real>
    <real>1.0065</real>
    <real>-0.050299999999999997</real>
    <real>0.0</real>
    <real>0.0</real>
    <real>0.96619999999999995</real>
    </array>
    <key>nek1</key>
    <real>0.027199999999999998</real>
    <key>nek2</key>
    <real>0.00019799999999999999</real>
    <key>nek3</key>
    <real>5.5999999999999997e-09</real>
    <key>nek4</key>
    <real>1.1174999999999999</real>
    <key>nek5</key>
    <real>-0.0020330000000000001</real>
    <key>nek6</key>
    <real>9.0272900000000001e-05</real>
    <key>otrc</key>
    <array>
    <real>0.27000000000000002</real>
    <real>0.094</real>
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    <real>1.429</real>
    <real>0.56899999999999995</real>
    <real>0.97699999999999998</real>
    <real>0.83999999999999997</real>
    </array>
    <key>scal1</key>
    <real>0.37</real>
    <key>scal2</key>
    <real>0.37</real>
    <key>spknd_0</key>
    <integer>1</integer>
    <key>spknd_1</key>
    <integer>1</integer>
    <key>spknd_2</key>
    <integer>3</integer>
    <key>spt1_0</key>
    <real>255.80000000000001</real>
    <key>spt1_1</key>
    <real>255.80000000000001</real>
    <key>spt1_2</key>
    <real>62.5</real>
    <key>spt2_2</key>
    <real>10.800000000000001</real>
    <key>white</key>
    <integer>3880</integer>
    </dict>
  • bozaman! Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    Janet Taylor wrote:
    Personally, I would never use a new camera for real work until I knew all the key pieces of my work flow were in place--eg. the camera and the software. My D200 didn't suddenly break, so I'm still happily using it.


    I am a new D300 owner (and happily enjoying the new learning process to know this camera's capabilities inside and out) and while I look forward to integrating it into my work, I knew that out of the gate I would not be able to effectively do that for a number of reasons. The lack of Aperture capability to read the NEF was certainly on that list, but not at the top. The primary reason is that I do not yet fully understand how I can best deliver consistent, high-quality professional results with the D300 and I need to take time to do that.

    My D200, however has not suddenly stopped producing excellent images and it just so happens that my existing workflow - including Aperture - works just fine with it. So, while I spend time educating myself on the best ways to use my new D300, I am still a very capable and busy photographer producing very consistent, high-quality professional images with my D200.

    In assessing my personal situation, I figured that even though I won't be able to take advantage of the D300 for professional purposes right away, by taking the time to learn how to effectively use the tool in a relaxed and controlled (read: non-professional) way I will be able to integrate that tool to my advantage when the workflow tools are finally all lined up to support that tool.

    Back in the "old" days, I'll bet no one (read: very few) went out and bought a brand new film and used it on a paid client job before taking the time to understand how it worked, what its capabilities/limitations were, etc. Can you imagine being a wedding photographer and taking Fuji Velvia to a wedding before you figured out that it's not the best portrait film? (That's not to say that Fuji Velvia didn't/doesn't have its great points, and I'm sure someone reading this will probably dispute my opinion on the use of Fuji Velvia as a portrait film - that's a flame war we can have some other time, agreed?) Figuring out how to use a new digital camera to the best of its abilities and understanding its limitations are absolutely key to providing consistently high-quality professional results, IMHO.

    I'm not giving up on Aperture simply because Apple didn't have an update ready to go out of the gate. On the contrary, I think making a decision to integrate a new tool into your professional toolbox without fully understanding how it will work best for you and having a back up plan to support you while you learn that tool is unprofessional at best.

    Blaming Apple for lack of D300 support on the day of release is only covering up for a lack of forethought in your own professional decision making.

    For those that don't use their D300s for professional work, what's the rush? Support will come, and then all of the complaining will stop and we'll move on to the next "crisis". In the meantime there are "work arounds" - no, they're not the best (hint: that's why they're called "work arounds" in the first place), but they will get you by while Apple takes the time to provide support. In all probability, in only a very few situations have most of us been disappointed with what Apple does quality-wise and I for one thank them for that diligence. As a side note - just look at how unhappy Adobe customers were when Lightroom 1.2 was "broken" for early Leopard adopters. This shows that every company is susceptible to this kind of backlash - granted, Adobe provided a relatively quick "fix" (although there are reports of other Leopard issues) and that's a good thing.

    For my own personal learning, I am spending time in Nikon Capture NX, and have been very impressed with what I've seen from the program and the image quality that it generates. Unfortunately, the workflow, cataloging and organizational capabilities of Aperture are far too critical for me to use Capture NX for my professional work, but it's a great learning tool. If you haven't used Capture NX before, take the time to give it a spin - you will probably be impressed (as has already been stated in this thread).
  • Matthew London Level 2 Level 2 (430 points)
    bozaman,

    How did you get CaptureNX to run under 10.5.1 ? It is crashing on me non-stop...
  • Kevin J. Doyle Level 1 Level 1 (90 points)
    I did not install NX from new on 10.5.1, I upgraded it via Nikon website download. I had already owned NX since it came out, and wanted 1.3 on there so when my new cameras arrived they would work. I have had no issues to speak of...but Nikon is saying that Leopard is not officially supported. Just going from my own experience, limited though it may be, I would bet the Nikon-stated NX incompatibility with Leopard is probably in the area of proper installation or something to that effect. Four machines here including mine that run NX are on Leopard, but all from upgrades.

    I have heard from a few folks on Leopard, that a new NX install has problems, those still on Tiger have had no issues. Our office is straddling the fence, about half still on Tiger since many of the Photoshop 3rd party plug-ins will not work at all on Leopard, and they are part of our workflow.

    While it would be a bit of work, I got here because I was already installed under Tiger, then upgraded to 1.3, and I have a couple of co-workers who got there the same way and are doing OK...

    Hope this helps
  • Janet Taylor Level 2 Level 2 (155 points)
    FWIW, I have also heard that the install disk that comes with the D300 is no good, but if you go to the nikon site and download the 1.3 "upgrade" it can install a full version, then just plug-in your s/n and it's much more stable than the disk. I have just done this as I installed a new system, so we'll see...

    The Nikon site now says that there is a danger of image corruption under Leopard. I have not experienced this, but in keeping with the spirit of leaving my masters completely untouched, I always dupe even the raw files before I work on them in NX or anything else, anyway.
  • Brad Cherson Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    i assume you are using capture nx or transfer to move your raw images.....are you going into aperture from that or converting the raw to jpeg and pulling into aperture.

    when i tried to load the nikon software that came on the disc, it keeps crashing...you are saying to load from the website?

    Without aperture's raw capture data, how are you tranferring the files to aperture?

    thanks for the help
  • e2photo Level 2 Level 2 (165 points)
    Janet,
    Can you provide a link to the Nikon site that talks about corruption of images in Leopard? Thanks. Steven
  • Janet Taylor Level 2 Level 2 (155 points)
    This link is so long, it makes the forum draw way toowide, but just go to nikon support and find the download for the NX 1.3 update. It's on the same page. As I've mentioned elsewhere, I so far haven't had any problems using this installer, either with crashing, or image corruption, but I'm still using a D200. And I'm obviously taking the precaution of never working on my original files.

    Message was edited by: Janet Taylor
  • waltonic Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hello Janet -- Capture NX 1.3 was working for me (on Leopard) up until a couple of days ago. Now when I export a .nef as a .tiff (to import into Aperture) the resultant .tiff is much, much noisier than the .nef equivalent in Capture NX.

    The problem is exacerbated by .nefs shot at a high ISO *even though those shots show demonstrably less noise in NX*.

    I assume that this must be the corruption that Nikon are referring to.

    There is a message in the support section on the Capture NX website.

    By all accounts, American D300 packages come with a voucher for $100 off Lightroom (I'm in the UK so can't verify that). If it is the case, however, it does mean that Apple's competitors have been canny in trying to steal a march on them.

    I tried Lightroom for a couple of days and was impressed with its slickness and smoothness, but -- in the end -- it's all about functionality and Aperture is a much more functional piece of software.

    So, I have no option other than to cross my fingers and wait.
  • Hi-there Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I have been speaking with tech support at Apple re: this issue. He confirmed that the update will come out with Apple update (not Aperture update) as iPhoto has to be able to handle D300/D3 RAW also.

    Secondly, he suggested providing feedback via Aperture Feedback. To do this from Aperture MENU:

    APERTURE > PROVIDE APERTURE FEEDBACK

    or, just visit:

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/aperture.html

    And fill this in asking for D3/D300 support. Apparently this form goes directly to Aperture developers and they do read it. So, more people fill this in, the higher the priority will be given to the 'cause'.

    Join me brothers and sisters!! : )
  • Janet Taylor Level 2 Level 2 (155 points)
    Interesting. I always assume that corruption means that files become un-openable. I'll keep a close watch to see if I notice anything like this.

    Adobe are great marketers, and they have NAPP doing half the job for them. And Apple makes it easy for them with things like slow updates for new cameras. I used Lightroom for over a year, as my hardware was insufficient to run Aperture. No question, Lightroom runs better on a lesser machine. The problem for me is Lightroom itself. For Nikon cameras, it's conversions have horrible white balance, even after you use one of the several scripts available to calibrate from a gretag-macbeth colour chart. The interface drove me to distraction, well actually to buy a new mac so I could come back to Aperture ; ) It's ugly to look at, though that's a matter of personal taste. It's so linear and so modal: you literally can't compare 3 images at 100 percent. The teeny tiny keywording windows, with everything stuck in those scrolling panels, lack of good curves or levels tools, no smart albums... I could go on. With Aperture, all the tools I need, and the images that I want to use them on are immediately to hand ( not to discourage anyone at Apple from making it better ; )).
  • rickallen1231 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    The problem with the recommendation to use Capture NX is that it is also incompatible with Leopard. The only answer right now is to use Adobe programs (LRoom and PShop). That, or shoot TIFF, which for those of us that shoot RAW is really not a solution.
  • Hud64 Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
    If you're on an Intel Mac, like me, what about using the Windows version of Capture NX via Bootcamp or Parallels, etc. ? I've just downloaded the Windows version and loaded it up, but I have yet to try and import any of my D300 images into it . . . I'm assuming it should work fine.

    (I know some have said that they've haven't had to much trouble running Capture NX under Leopard, but not me, it crashes no matter what I do).

    cheers-
    dave
  • waltonic Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hello Dave,

    I don't own a copy of XP or Vista, and I don't relish the idea of parting with cash to pay for one!

    It's a good possible workaround for people who already have Boot Camp up and running, though.

    Adam
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