1,250 Watts on new PowerMac G5 dual core? - THAT IS AN OVEN!

I want to purchase the new PowerMac G5 dual core, but I have been shocked to learn that they seem to require 1,250 watts of power (that is an oven!):

http://www.apple.com/powermac/specs.html

Electrical and environmental requirements
Line voltage: 100 - 125V AC or 200 - 240V AC
Maximum current: At least 10A (low-voltage range) or 5A (high-voltage range)

Example: 240 V x 5 A = 1,200 Watts!!! As a comparison, the PowerMac G4/500 (AGP) consumes just 200 watts maximum: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=43103

Anyone has information concerning specific power consumption (watts) and noise levels (dB) of each PowerMac G5 model?

Dual-core 2GHz PowerPC G5 processor
Dual-core 2.3GHz PowerPC G5 processor
Two dual-core 2.5GHz PowerPC G5 processors

Does the latter use liquid cooling? How many fans has each model?

Cannot find such information on Apple spec documents.

Thanks.

Posted on Oct 26, 2005 3:50 PM

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Oct 26, 2005 4:16 PM in response to Gabriel Dorado

Well there are four processor cores in there. Supposedly each physical processor takes 100W max. Remember that 1200 watts means that you have a loaded quad with a couple Nvidia 4500's in there powering 30" displays, 2 hard drives spinning, an optical drive spinning, playing Doom 3 while rendering HD on the other three processors onto outboard Xsans via both ethernet ports. Now your everyday usage will have a much lower consumption especially as they can clock down (if you use power saving mode) to only consume 30W per processor. Either way, I'll be adding a new wall outlet on a 20A fuse for the G5.

As for cooling, the quad does use liquid cooling like the old dual 2.7 did. We'll all have to wait for noise level comparisons since the quads aren't released yet.

Nov 3, 2005 9:16 AM in response to Gabriel Dorado

Remember these are all MAX requirement - when Apple designs the platform and specs the current rating and power supplies, they need to take into account the type of accessories a user may put into a Mac.

Of course a unit that has a dual core and a single hard drive will use less power than a quad packed full with memory, dual RAID drives, and 4 of the top end graphics cards. Not every user will configure their platform like that, but they have to take into consideration the small amount of users who will.

Additionally the max ratings will only be approached when the system is laboring the cpus and generating more heat. The more a processor is doing, the more current it requires, the more power it takes, the more heat it generates, and the fans cut in to cool it down, using more power.... bit of a vicious circle 😉

Idling, the PM won't be using anywhere near 1250W. A standard PC (including monitor) consumes about 100W. I would hazard a guess that under 'normal' work load a PM is probably using around 100-120 with out the monitor.

rgds

Simon

Nov 3, 2005 9:45 AM in response to Simon Leech

Good guess Simon,

Measuring my mdd gives results very close to what you have. Of course an upgraded video card (like the 9800) which has it's own power tap will add quite a bit, hard drives add about 10W each, etc.

My mac uses 12W in deep sleep and 7W when turned "off". This with the monitor and peripherals on another circuit.
With my stock video card I can't get my mac to use half of it's rated power supply using programs designed to push the processors and the hard drives.

Many quad purchasers are buying it not because they need it but because they want it. I want one too but can't really justify the purchase. My "ancient" g4 dualie does everything needed.

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