studio display 17'' crt (with adc) and powerbook

I am in the same predicament. I have been reading through all the display forums and find several other users with the same problem, which Apple apparently has no fix for and doesn't know they have no fix. That is what I am finding. There is something from Gefen products that some have had work but I am wanting more information myself.

The DVI to ADC converter ONLY works on LCDs with ADC connections not CRTs. So there is nothing wrong with what your trying to do other than Apple does not have anything that connects these, just strange???

It seems the wonderful 17 studio display ADC CRT has been abandoned in the constant Apple hardware connection evolution.

taylan,
Surely you're all being a little churlish here towards Apple. These monitors, fine though they may be, are now several years old. Surely it's a little much to expect Apple to support everything they've ever made on all their machines. Technology moves on at such a rate that would nigh on impossible and if they did do it we'd end up having PC like tower cases full of various size drive enclosures and more sockets and ports than your average electrical store - just in case someone somewhere needed a serial connector for a 10 year old hand scanner they bought of ebay for 20 cents.
I for one don't miss OS 7,8 or 9, a floppy drive, scsi address conflicts or serial ports (all missing from my old bluey). And as my mom says about ebay 'A bargain's only a bargain when it works'.
Being positive, at least you've got a nice new modern samsung LCD which has a warranty and remember, in all probability it wouldn't have been compatible with a Mac five or six years ago !

Enjoy
Rob C

God forbid Apple support a monitor they made from a few years back which is independent of an OS, drive or scsi. G5s have a video card that can have a VGA and DVI monitor. VGA, doesn't that go back 20 years or so?

And as noted about the new iPod with USB2.0. It is a known fact that real world transfer rates for firewire are faster than USB2.0, but to get every PC user to buy an iPod as well they decide to drop the firewire transfer connection. It may a sign as well.

We're all Apple users here. Some of us use these as work machines and don't care about the gadgets, but it's the gadgets that keep messing up consistency in connectors not necessarily the pace of technology. I guess ADC is now just an unsupported gadget.

Hi taylan,
It must indeed be frustrating to have that ADC display sitting idle - I had an adb Wacom tablet which I bought new with my B&W which, when I upgraded to OSX, was useless because there was no support for these tablets..from Wacom. And the griffin adb/usb adapter didn't support Wacom's tablets either - nice new Wacom 2 for me - Wacom 1 on ebay. ADC was not really a new Apple technological standard, but really just a way of gathering all the cables (power, USB and analogue video) into one single cable. Since then Apple have fitted the best and most appropriate standard for the new digital input LCD screens they sell - DVI was not a step back- ADC was an analogue video connection. Also, don't forget, these 'forgotten' technologies tend to be very Apple specific. Firewire and Bluetooth are industry wide standards available on a massive selection of equipment. (Firewire was a joint development with Sony and is now on every DV camera made (and is featured as the only digital output on Sony's new HiDef HDV equipment-there is no HD SDI) so that will be with us for a long time yet and Bluetooth was developed by Ericsson and is now used by Apple (as well as every mobile phone maker and a considerable number of peripheral manufacturers too). USB 2 is really just Apple's way of keeping those foolish PC owners happy and if it means it gives Apple the ability to grow and give us Macists more of the great stuff we're used to then I'm all for it - and you can always fit a USB 2 PCI card - cost me £8 for 6 ports !! ADC isn't really definable as a standard in the way that FW and Bluetooth are. Don't forget either that it was Apple who gave us Firewire, USB, Bluetooth, got rid of useless floppy discs (still a much loved -and IMHO, totally useless PC addiction ), dropped scsi and stopped selling CRT screens long before anyone else. The problem with taking risks and trying new ideas is that somewhere along the way you're going to p*ss off at least one of your dedicated followers.
Taylan, I fully understand your frustartion and if I was you, I'd stick that ADC monitor back on ebay and send it off to a new home.
Don't you just love the joy and agony those folk in Cupertino put us through !!

All the best
Rob C

I have exactly the same problem on the original B/W 17" display for my upgraded rev 1 B/W G3 and I've been seeing a lot of the same kinds of postings. It started to happen after I upgraded to 10.3.9 (I think...., am pretty sure). It makes me wonder if there are some coding/instruction glitches because it works sometimes (maybe even after I unplug it for several hours or days, or possibly it's after a slight whack to either/both the cpu/box &/or the display).

I know the display isn't dead because it works sometimes, it's just schizoid and I thought it had something to do with the bus, but I'm using a borrowed flat screen monitor that is working now. (altho it experienced the same power button blinking at some point a while back -- that's why I think it has something to do with the coding/instructions because when I had 10.3.7, it didn't do it.) I think I might downgrade back to 10.3.7 and see what happens.

But it's extremely frustrating and I lost work/jobs because of it. What say you apple? Who has figured this conundrum out.

I don't think it's churlish to expect apple to make sure perfectly good cpus and monitors/displays continue to work properly when a PREMIUM has been paid to purchase these things in the first place, to support apple all these years, and when we have invested many thousands (tens of thousands) of dollars in both hardware and software based the promises apple made in those early days to get us to be apple users. It's merely asking them to be responsible to their core constituency, to be accountable and to be responsive to the people who kept them going.