Need Help with SCSI Card and Drive

I really need a genius with this one, because I have no idea. I have an old Jaz drive that I wanted to keep using with my current Mac, so I got the SCSI PCI card as a built-to-order option. It all worked fine, but I haven't used it for a while.

This weekend I bought a new 320GB external drive, so I was going to replace the Jaz and reclaim the PCI port. But now I can't get my Mac to load the Jaz drive. When I switch on the Jaz before starting my Mac, I get a kernal panic on startup and need to restart. When I start the Jaz after the Mac has started up, it won't load on the desktop. It sounds like it's spinning up okay, so I don't think the problem is with the Jaz. I suspect that somewhere in my upgrading the OS lost the ability to communicate through the SCSI card or to recognize a SCSI drive.

I downloaded the current Iomega Tools from the Iomega site, but that didn't do anything.

Can anyone help me with this? I can't pull the data off my old Jaz discs and I'd really like to save that material.

Thanks in advance.

Posted on Nov 1, 2005 5:00 PM

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Nov 2, 2005 12:12 PM in response to Tyro

Hi Tyro,

I may have the answer for that one. I have an Adaptec 29160N that was doing the exact same thing in OS X Panther when I first installed it.

First, find out if the built to order SCSI card is the same type (I think it is). Open the System Profiler and click on "PCI Cards" in the left pane. Highlight the SCSI card in the upper right pane, if it isn't already and check the information on the card below. If it's the same as mine, it should read "ADPT,29160N".

If that's right, install this driver from Adaptec's web site. It says beta, but it's been that way for over a year now. However, once I installed that, everything worked perfectly again.

Nov 2, 2005 12:49 PM in response to Kurt Lang

Hi Kurt --

Thanks for helping me decode what I was seeing in my System Profiler. I don't have the same card as you, unfortunately. I have the Adaptec 2930**. I looked it up on the Adaptec site and it's not even listed as being supported for Macs!

I installed the software you recommended, just to see, but it didn't help. I still get a kernal panic when starting with the Jaz on. Any other ideas?

Thanks again.

Nov 2, 2005 1:35 PM in response to Tyro

Hmm, I used to have that same card in a dual 450 G4. That one didn't need any extra drivers under Panther, but I'm not sure about Tiger. You could try this driver instead, since it's specifically for the 2930.

The really confusing part is if you look in the Extensions folder within the System folder, there's already drivers there for both the 29160 and 2930. Odd that they won't work.

Dec 21, 2005 12:55 PM in response to Kurt Lang

I have a 2GB Jaz drive that's giving me a few problems. I had it in this B & W for years with the same Adaptec 2930 SCSI card. There was an internal hard drive at the end of the chain with the termination jumper installed and the Jaz installed in the center ribbon position. This was also a working dual boot machine with 9.2.2 and X.2.8

I recently removed the entire SCSI chain while moving hard drives around with other machines, troubleshooting a seperate RAM problem, and restoring a crashed FW external drive. Geesh a lot has happened in the last 2 weeks!

Anyway, I finally got the B & W working again as a dual boot machine but with Tiger X.4.3 and 9.2.2. So now I want to put back the original SCSI chain and nothing but problems now.

I can still boot into 9.2.2 just fine... but not in Tiger without Kernal Panics.

Configuration #1- Jaz drive on center SCSI ribbon position with termination block installed on end of cable as per factory specs. Can't boot Tiger without kernel panic.

Configuration #2- Jaz drive on center SCSI ribbon position with Hard Drive on end position and termination jumper set on HD. Same results as #1 above.

Other Notes-

1. Insert any disk in Jaz drive and computer will boot into Tiger and mount disk.
2. Remove power cable from Jaz drive and compuer will boot into Tiger.
3. Eject disk after booting into Tiger and get Kernel Panic very soon after.
4. All configurations appear to work in OS 9.2.2

I've changed the SCSI card's internal terminations to all three settings with all the above results the same. I used to always have it on "disabled" and now it's on "automatic".

I've downloaded and installed the 2930 OS X drivers from Adaptec even though they state- "The version 1.1 driver is embedded in Mac OS X 10.2 and later, there is no need to download and install this driver if you are running Mac OS X 10.2 or later."

So now all the B & W hardware is back to where it's been for years and I can't boot into Tiger. If I re-install Tiger, it has to be from scratch since the installer detects a newer system version. Plus after booting into the installer, it froze up while I was just looking at the "options" screen for installing.

I'd ultimately just like to just have the internal Jaz by itself but I put back the hard drive merely as a means to troubleshoot.

I don't know if I have an Iomega issue or an Adaptec issue??? Iomega's web site has a KB doc in the Mac section that seems to be written for a PC. It says that the drive is setup to boot in the bios. Adaptec's web site refers back to the device manufacturers when the computer won't boot.

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