MacPro HD isn't a valid audio recording volume, how to change this?

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I have installed and updated my relatively old-school MBox ProTools system onto my new MacPro (standard, 2x 2.66 Intel with 2GB Memory). While trying to start a new session with ProTools I get the error message that a "Session Must Be On An Audio Record Volume". Checking the Digidesign support pages I was told to change my standard 250GB Mac HD from a Transfer Volume to a Record Volume.

Here is my MacPro question:
When I try to change my HD from Transfer to Record I get an error message saying my HD "cannot be designated as an Audio Record volume because it is not a valid audio volume". I see all of these posts from people who have ProTools running successfully in their studios, how do I convert my HD to a valid audio drive like I assume all of yours are?

MacPro, Mac OS X (10.4.10)

Posted on Nov 12, 2007 9:46 AM

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Nov 12, 2007 11:14 AM in response to confused2much11

I've received that error before too...a lot of times if I just reset the computer/PRAM it goes away and I can set the drive to a Record volume. By the way, Pro Tools runs much better if you use another drive besides your boot drive for audio. I highly recommend buying an external or if your MP has another drive in it without all the applications on it, use that.

Nov 16, 2007 5:41 PM in response to confused2much11

Thanks so much for taking the time to address my question!

I took your advice and unfortunately my hard drive is still considered an invalid audio record volume. Poo.

If there are any other suggestions I'd be more than happy to try them out 🙂

And also, would you think that the reason this hard drive is not an audio record volume is because it's a bootup drive?

Nov 21, 2007 12:08 PM in response to confused2much11

I STRONGLY RECOMMEND that you use a dedicated hard drive ONLY for recording audio tracks and immediately dismiss any attempts to use your bootable drive as the digital destination for any of your multi-track audio recordings. I speak as one who has researched this matter extensively (referring to almost every conceivable aspect of setting up an Apple-oriented pro-quality audio-recording system). Although I intend to use Logic instead of Pro Tools when I finally get an Apple Mac Pro, the external hard drive that I intend to use as my dedicated audio drive is the same one approved by DigiDesign for use with Pro Tools LE, Pro Tools HD, and Pro Tools M-Powered:

http://www.glyphtech.com/site/products/gt050q.html

If it is good enough for Pro Tools, then it is good enough for Logic (and for me).

Nov 21, 2007 1:40 PM in response to confused2much11

Hmmm.. I've never experienced the error and I can record to the system drive so I know its possible.

Here is some advice from the trouble shooting topic on the DUC for ProToolsLE on Mac:

"Delete Pro Tools preferences.
-Go to Users > “your user name” > Library > Preferences
-Delete 'com.digidesign.protoolsLE.plist', 'DAE Prefs' (folder), 'DigiSetup.OSX' and 'Pro Tools preferences'.
-Empty trash, then restart the computer.

Repair Permissions
-Quit Pro Tools and launch Apple's "Disk Utility" application, located in:

MacHD>Applications>Utilities.

-Select your boot drive (the whole drive, not the volume underneath the drive)
-Go to the 'First Aid' tab and select "Repair Disk Permissions"

Apple recommends doing this any time you install new software, update your OS or reinstall any software.

Databases and Volumes

This step can be useful when receiving random 'assertion' or 'neoaccess' errors, especially when recording or saving.

-Delete the Digidesign Databases folders on the first level of all mounted hard drives, then delete the "Volumes" folder in MacHD > Library > Application Support > Digidesign > Databases.

-Empty trash, then restart the computer."

Here is the link to the troubleshooting thread:

http://duc.digidesign.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=313423&page=0&view=collapsed& sb=5&o=7&fpart=1#313423

I also agree that you should plan on getting another drive to record to. I use external FW drives but your internal SATA drive bays would work as well.

Here is another link on the Digi site that has lots of info on drives:

http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?langid=100&navid=54&itemid=23142

Nov 21, 2007 2:08 PM in response to The hatter

Here is the info straight from Digi:

"Hard Drive Requirements

For IDE/ATA, SATA, FireWire or SCSI Drives:

Minimum speed of 7200 RPM & average seek time of less than 10.0 ms
Boot drives may be used for audio tracks, however performance/track count may vary
Recording to boot drive not recommended or supported
For 24-32 tracks, drives must be dedicated for audio (internal or external)
Mac OS file system: Mac OS Extended (also known as HFS+ format)
Mac OS Standard (HFS) formatted drives can be used for transfer, but are not recommended for recording or playback
Windows NTFS or FAT32 formatted drives supported on Mac OS X for transfer only
Pro Tools does not support RAID technology. Please do not activate this feature on any Pro Tools recording drives.
Supported formatting utility for IDE/ATA, SATA, FireWire, or SCSI drives: Apple Disk Utility, included with Mac OS X"

Sooo..

You CAN use the boot drive, but you may experience slow performance. If you use the boot drive, their tech support won't help you if you have related problems.

You SHOULD use a dedicated audio drive.

It should be formatted with HFS+.

It can not be a RAID drive.

Dec 12, 2007 2:22 PM in response to JDubd

My guess is it is FW400 issue in part. Also, you are aware this is Mac Pro and not Book forum? or you have both (Ned I know has MBP along with his Mac Pro).

Leopard rewrote the rules for disk arbitration and that change has meant drivers, controllers etc need to be updated which is ongoing and could take one or two .DOIT updates to OS X.

If you do go back, 10.4.11

I think Mac users are going to start looking at OS X the way PC users wait for an "SP1" before adopting.

Before you say "no" to Leopard, I would reformat any and all of your disk drives; then do a clean install; backup and then test, and only then import your files and update your software. That is my own method for moving to any new OS revision, anyway.

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