Accessing old user accounts after 10.3.9 install and archive

Following a failed attempt to upgrade my imac G4 (running 10.3.9) to Leopard I have completed an "archive and install" from the panther disk that came with my imac. The installation went fine and all my old user accounts (containing all my files, pictures, etc.) are saved in a file entitled "previous system 1". Is there a way to migrate these old user accounts (containing all their settings/files for itunes, mail, etc.) to the new system or do I have to set them all up again from scratch and move the files across from "previous system 1"? Also, since performing the "archive and install" I can't get safari to launch, either from the dock or finder. It just bounces once and nothing happens. I can, however, get onto the internet using firefox.

iMac G4 1GHZ 17", Mac OS X (10.3.x)

Posted on Nov 13, 2007 5:02 AM

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Nov 13, 2007 5:57 AM in response to Alec Hughes

Hi Alec!

Did you use the same User Short Name?

You must not have selected the "Preserve user and network settings" option".
Info here About the Archive and Install feature

Info here How to get files from a previous home directory after Archive and Install.

To reestablish Safari, run Repair Permissions, download and install the 10.3.9 Combo Update, and run Repair Permissions again.
Info here Safari may not work after an Archive and Install"

Repost if you need further instructions.

ali b

Nov 13, 2007 9:15 AM in response to ali brown

Ali. Thanks for the swift reply. I'm not sure about the user short name - does this matter? You're right, I didn't select the "preserve user preferences" option and I assume its now too late and I will have to rebuild my user accounts from scratch and move my files into the new accounts. Is it not possible to simply drag and drop them to somewhere the computer can recognise them as user accounts?

Assuming I need to set up new user accounts, once I've moved all my files to these new accounts should I delete everything in the "previous system"? FYI...I tried to copy my itunes music files into my new user account last night (about 1,600 files) and it stopped after about 1,100 because it had run out of disk space - I deleted some of the files that I had already transferred from the "previous system" folder and this seemd to free up enough space to continue transferring files to the new user account.

In relation to Safari, I have already downloaded the 10.3.9 Combo Update, but didn't run Repair Permissions first, does this matter? Sorry, for my ignorance, I've not had these kind of problems before!

Nov 13, 2007 9:43 AM in response to Alec Hughes

You're Welcome Alec!

"I'm not sure about the user short name - does this matter?"
I'm fairly sure that it does.
But look in HD > Users: Here, make note of the names of the account folders.
Then look in the Previous system folder, and make note of the names of the account folders.
Are they the same or different?

For now, don't move any more files.
What size is the Hard Drive, and how much space is available now?

"...but didn't run Repair Permissions first, does this matter?"
It could. Did you run it after?

ali b

Nov 13, 2007 11:14 AM in response to ali brown

The short name of the account holder is alechughes in both the HD>users file (the new account) and the "previous system 1" file.

Details of my HD:
Capacity: 74.4GB
Available: 360.7MB
Used 74.1GB
No. of files 744,954

Also, my system profile doesn't work - it says its disabled or not installed!

I won't move anymore files until I know what i'm doing!

No, I haven't run repair permissions.

Just a thought, but would it be better for me to copy the whole of "previous system 1" to my external hard drive and perform a full delete and reinstall of Panther or Leopard, and then import the files from my hard drive into the new system?

Message was edited by: Alec Hughes

Nov 13, 2007 11:45 AM in response to Alec Hughes

Alec,

If you are running with 360.7 MB of available space, on a 80 GB hard drive, you are courting disaster.
You need to backup the system to the external drive ASAP!

Insufficient available space, can cause system corruption, and possible data loss.

Depending on Mac system usage habits, it is a general recommendation, to keep 10% to as much as 20%, of the Total capacity, available at all times.

Back up, and free up some space ASAP!

Review the suggestions, in the documents that I have linked to below.

Authored by Dr Smoke:
Problems From Insufficient RAM And Free Hard Disk Space
Freeing Space On Your Mac OS X Startup Disk

Mac OS X 10.3/10.4: System Maintenance, authored by Gulliver
Maintaining Mac OS X, authored by Dr Smoke

If you turn the iBook off nightly, Background Maintenance Tasks, are never run.

These can also be run, using a Third-Party utility, or manually using Terminal, to run the CRON Commands.
I use MacJanitor, when necessary.

INSTRUCTIONS TO RUN CRON MANUAL COMMANDS
Quit all applications/programs.
Navigate to HD > Applications > Utilities.
Double click on Terminal, to open.
At the prompt, type:

sudo periodic daily

Press Return.
Enter your Admin password when prompted, then press Return.
This will execute the daily script that is sheduled to run every night.
When completed, repeat this procedure, but change the command to:

sudo periodic weekly

This one rebuilds a database or two, and usually takes somewhat longer to complete. It is scheduled to run once a week.
Repeat again, with command:

sudo periodic monthly

Or they can all be run in one pass, which is preferable, with this command:

sudo periodic daily weekly monthly

When the tasks complete, and return to the prompt, you may quit Terminal.

Restart the Mac, and run Repair Permissions.

TO REPAIR PERMISSIONS ON THE STARTUP DISK
1.Open Disk Utility, located in Applications/Utilities, and select the startup disk in the left column.
2.Click First Aid.
3.Click Verify Disk Permissions to test permissions or Repair Disk Permissions to test and repair permissions. (I never "Verify". Just run "Repair".)

ali b

Nov 14, 2007 3:13 AM in response to Alec Hughes

I have now copied the contents of "previous system 1" to my external hard drive (all 50GB of it!) and deleted it from my HD. Not surprisingly, this has dramatically improved the free space on my HD. I will also take the other measures you have suggested. What got me into this situation in the first place was trying to update my OS to Leopard (which I purchased from the Apple store a few weeks ago). I don't want to have wasted my £80 and would like to update my operting system (partly so that I can purchase an iphone - which isn't compatable with 10.3.9). Now that I have copied all my documents, photos, files, music, etc. to my external drive, would you suggest that I do a completly fresh install of Leopard (presumably, deleting whatever is left on my HD) - does leopard contain all the applications, etc. I need? - and then import all my existing files, music, etc. form my hard drive. Once again, sorry to be a bit thick on this...

Nov 25, 2007 9:04 AM in response to Alec Hughes

You're Welcome Alec!

Congratulations!

To keep it running top-notch, continue to be vigilant of the free available Hard Drive space, and Routine System Maintenance !

I apologize for losing track of this Topic.
I had a problem, with my old Snow iMac G3, and purchased a new Intel iMac, so I lost a bit of ground during the transition.

It came with Tiger 10.4.x pre-installed, and included an upgrade disc for Leopard 10.5.x, which I haven't installed yet.
I'm going to wait a bit, until some additional wrinkles in the new version, are ironed out!

ali b

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