1937 Views 9 Replies Latest reply: Nov 18, 2007 10:54 PM by Don Archibald
This article has detailed instructions for doing what you want to do:
301468- Mac OS X 10.4: Restoring applications from a Mac OS X 10.2 Software Restore disc
The bulk of the article describes a method that involves erasing your Hard drive and re-installing 10.2, then upgrading to 10.4 after the restore.
But if you look at the last few paragraphs, there is another method offered.
You can download a .dmg that opens to an Installer .pkg that installs a new version of Restore:
Software Restore restores your computer’s original contents except Mac OS X. This includes the applications of Mac OS X and Classic support for Mac OS 9 applications that came with your computer. Software Restore does not restore Mac OS X, iPhoto, iTunes, iCal, iChat or iMovie. If you need to reinstall Mac OS X or these applications, use the Mac OS X installation discs that came with your computer.
Message was edited by: Grant Bennet-Alder
I already had a new erased drive, so I booted the 10.2 install disk that came with my machine, installed 10.2 and then went on thru the Software Restore process under 10.2. It all went fine. After that, software update wanted to download several things including an update to 10.2.8, so I let it. Then I tried to restart to the 9.2.2 partition of the new drive. It showed a happy Mac for just a fraction of a second, then went to the flashing question mark inside the floppy disk icon.
Does such a failing startup leave any log or other explanation of why the startup failed?
10.2 and earlier have a history of being sloppy about stepping on OS 9's toes.
How did you get OS 9 on the hard drive in the first place?
You may be able to go back to that set-up and "Re-Bless" the OS 9 System Folder:
106426- Mac OS: "Startup Disk no longer has a valid System Folder"
or you could try using Statup Manager to see if you could one-time override whatever the default is set to:
106178- Startup Manager: How to select a startup volume
One other possibility is using a PRAM Reset to erase any pre-conceived notions about what is the default Operating System:
2238- Resetting your Mac's PRAM and NVRAM
Message was edited by: Grant Bennet-Alder
OS 9 was just installed by the software restore operation. I have seen no problem selecting the startup volume, nor has Startup Disk made any objection about restarting to any choice. The OS 9 choice for each hard drive reads 9.2.2.
I tried doing the whole install of OS 10.2 again including erasing the disk, then running Software Restore (for all the offered packages) again. No help.
I tried blessing the System Folder by registering it in the Classic pane of System Preferences and restarting. Classic runs nicely, and this got me a nice "9" on the folder, but still the flashing ? in the floppy image. Tried re-blessing by double clicking on the System. Same result.
Tried downloading the new version of System Restore that you noted, and running it on my old 10.4 drive, selecting only the "Classic support" box among the choices offered. This cut down the disk insertion to just the first Software Restore disk, not all 4, but still the flashing ? appears when trying to restart.
The lack of Classic support in Leopard is particularly nasty if I can't get an OS 9 to boot!
Hi, Craig -
A couple of thoughts, items I did not see mentioned earlier in this thread.
In order for a volume (volume = an unpartitioned drive, or a partition of a partitioned drive) to be OS 9 bootable -
• the drive/volume must have OS 9 drivers installed. When OSX's Disk Utility is used to re-initialize a drive, the option to install OS 9 drivers must be selected; it is not always 'on' by default.
• the volume can not exceed 200GB. If the drive is larger than that, it must be partitioned such that the volume used for OS 9 booting is no larger than 200GB (190GB is a safe max size).
And, the OS 9 version must be suitable for the machine in question; since you are using the original disk set that came with the machine, this requirement is met.
Thank you, Don, sounds like you have hit upon the problem with your second bullet. Both of the drives currently in the machine are rated 500 GB.
Guess what my next question is? What software can I use to partition my newest drive into 2 parts, one for OS 9? If there are several choices, is one likely to be more compatible with other software?
Hi, Craig -
You can use OSX's Disk Utility to partition such a drive. You can either boot from OSX on one drive and redo the other; or boot to the OSX Install CD and redo either or both.
It's pretty much straight-forward; there's a brief description of doing that here -
-and more here -
The critical items, other than volume size - make sure that OS 9 drivers are installed (that selection should be available on the Partition-tab page in Disk Utility); and that the volumes are formatted as Mac OS Extended.
Thanks again, Don,
My 500 GB drive is now partitioned into a 190 MB partition that is OS 9/X bootable, and a "rest of it" partition which holds data. OS 9 is bootable and all is well. Perhaps someday someone will survey drive sizes and wonder why so many OS X drives are 190 MB when no vendor actually sells a drive of that size
After a day or two for stabilization I will go on to the joys of Leopard (10.5).