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Half of my iphone screen unresponsive

Well can't say I'm pleased with Apple there. A friend brought me back an iphone from the US, and I'm experiencing the same problem many of you are : half of the screen is dead, won't respond to any command. Its great when you live in the States to get it replaced in a few days but HOW are we supposed to get the problem fix in Europe and at what price. The guarantee won't work in France, the iphone hasn't yet been launched.

And I'm not the only one I know with this issue, I can't believe it.

I've always been a fan of Apple, since the very beginning, but if I can't get my iphone running, I'll never buy their products again, not even a new ipod. PLEASE, someone help me.

Thanks

iphone 8g

Posted on Nov 18, 2007 4:00 PM

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Nov 18, 2007 4:14 PM in response to begmax

You are using an iPhone that is not authorized for use in France in this way and in order for an iPhone sold in the U.S. which is sold as carrier locked with AT&T only to be used with a cellular provider's SIM card and associated network in France requires using an iPhone hack which may have been the cause of this problem and voids the warranty.

Apple's warranty coverage doesn't apply for such an iPhone in France or in any other country but especially when hacked which voids the warranty regardless.

If the iPhone is not yet available in France, it will be soon - a carrier locked version with Orange and an unlocked version which will be sold at a higher price. The iPhones sold in France will include Apple's warranty there.

I've always been a fan of Apple, since the very beginning, but if I can't get my iphone running, I'll never buy their products again, not even a new ipod.


That is too bad for you but Apple wins some and loses some but win many more than they lose.

Nov 18, 2007 4:31 PM in response to begmax

I see Apple is responding fast to my question, as I've been able to find out on the net it's clearly not a problem due to any action perfomed on the phone (which is right now still on the unregistered screen and emergency only).

Apple is clearly monitoring this issue, and apparently already knew before launching the product that there were problems with the screen : the Finnish company it bought the technology from was already experiencing the problem.

Like I said, I've always used Apple products and I'm just really sad to have such a flaw in a 500 dollar telephone. I guess thats what you get to be so fond of the company you just can't wait for longer.

Well, no way I'm paying another 400EUR for a product which will probably go dead within a month, andI'll make sure I won't be the only one.

And sad to say but I'll probably get some of my money back when the first class action begins

Nov 18, 2007 4:51 PM in response to begmax

If this iPhone which is sold in the U.S. as carrier locked with AT&T only has not been activated with AT&T and has not been hacked nor any action has been performed, none of the iPhone functions work besides being able to make an emergency 911 call in the U.S. so how are you able to determine if half the iPhone's screen is unresponsive at this point?

I'm sure Apple is monitoring this issue but anyone reporting this issue that has not hacked their iPhone to be used with a different unauthorized provider is covered under warranty. An iPhone sold in the U.S. is covered by Apple's warranty in the U.S. only - you must be in the U.S. in order to have an iPhone that is sold in the U.S. be repaired or exchanged under warranty.

Well, no way I'm paying another 400EUR for a product which will probably go dead within a month, andI'll make sure I won't be the only one.


Well had you been a little patient and not purchased an iPhone sold in the U.S. as carrier locked with AT&T only which must be hacked in order to be used with a provider in France WHICH VOIDS THE WARRANTY, an iPhone sold in France - carrier locked with Orange or sold as unlocked which will be available in France, your iPhone would be covered by Apple's warranty in France and be repaired or exchanged.

And sad to say but I'll probably get some of my money back when the first class action begins


You won't get squat back. You purchased an iPhone sold in the U.S. that is not designed for use in the way you intended with the only way to do so using a hack which is a violation of Apple's software license agreement and voids the warranty.

Nov 18, 2007 5:12 PM in response to begmax

I can see why you're pushing all your answers toward the warranty void. It's easier than taking the blame for a malfunctioning product.

I'm not joking about the fact that I have never hacked the phone, never got to it in fact. Through the emergnecy keypad I cannot access the numbers on top (1-6), thats how I figured out I had a problem.
The truth is I WAS going to hack the thing, but never got the chance since I can't type the correct number sequence to access the wifi and install any programs.

And as I see that Apple is indeed feeling OK with loosing its hardcore customers, I'll feel OK with a class action myself. And I'm not so sure about not getting a squat back.

Nov 18, 2007 5:41 PM in response to begmax

I'm pushing my answers towards the warranty since electronic products do malfunction - it happens and when they malfunction not caused by accidental damage or using a hack, it is covered by the manufacturer's warranty and will be repaired or replaced under warranty.

You have a taking personal responsibility problem because this has everything to do with the warranty coverage. If you expect such an electronic device - any electronic device to not have any malfunctions with every unit sold is not realistic which is the reason for the warranty. You just couldn't wait until the iPhone was released in France or were trying to save money or whatever the reason. Your iPhone does not include the firmware version to be used with Orange in France - it was sold as carrier locked with AT&T only so Apple in France can't help you with a warranty issue for an iPhone that was purchased in the U.S. and vice-versa.

If you were in the U.S., your iPhone (sold in the U.S. as carrier locked with AT&T only to be used in another country via international roaming with AT&T only) would be repaired or exchanged under warranty but not after using a hack in order to use the iPhone with an unauthorized provider's SIM card which is a violation of the software license agreement.

If you are such a "hardcore" customer, you would know this and most "hardcore" customers don't violate Apple's software license agreement which you had every intention to do.

Best of luck trying to explain all this with your class action law suit. LOL!

Nov 19, 2007 2:43 AM in response to begmax

Well well, I see there's nothing to get from your side. I'm aware that electronic devices can fail from time to time but you would expect such a major flaw from a chineese product, not Apple.

Indeed I couldn't wait for the iphone, which is no crime by itself. I called a friend attorney in NY which told me that the intention of hacking the iphone does not constitute any violation of your warranty. As long as I didn't perform the hacking itself, the warranty should still stand, at least that's what he believes. Therefore my claim seems to be relevant. Once I get a working device, hacking it would indeed be a void, but that is not my situation yet.

He stated that the warranty is indeed not valid in France, but that I should still be offered a way to have the device checked and repaired.

I don't know what a hardcore customer is to you, but I got my first Mac in 1990. Since then I've owned 6 others Mac, latest been the iMac I bought 2 years ago. I have also bought 3ipods, and offered severals others to family members. To me that's constitutes a loyal customer at the least, if not hardcore. I've never had major problems with your products, thats why I'm so mad to see the iphone wasn't ready when it was launched, and thats I bought a 500dol brick.

Although I see the first class action suit against Apple for the unremovable battery seems quite irrelevant, it seems that people are getting organized and be sure I'll be one of the plaintif one day, especially as I was denied warranty while not performing any illegal actions on my iphone.
Best regards

Nov 19, 2007 5:16 AM in response to begmax

There is nothing or very little you will get from my side in this situation - especially someone who is threatening lawsuits.

People that do this over Apple not providing a removable battery which can be determined before making the purchase and even if not, the iPhone can be returned within 14 days after the purchase for credit less a 10% restocking fee if opened is a big joke. The same for someone threatening a lawsuit who is expecting warranty coverage for an iPhone purchased in the U.S. which was taken to France to be used in France in the same way I'm provided warranty coverage in case of a warranty claim. This is called frivolous and ends up costing everyone more since Apple must pay to defend themselves over this garbage.

This isn't a failure after it was working properly. Apparently you received an iPhone that is defective which also happens. The repair shop at the Mercedes dealership where I live is just as full and busy as any other repair shop.

Your lawyer buddy is correct - your intention to hack the iPhone does not constitute any violation of the warranty which is not what I said. I said you are in France with an iPhone that was purchased in the U.S. and is covered by warranty when in the U.S. only.

Why doesn't your helpful lawyer friend in NY help you out with this? You can ship your iPhone to NY and your friend can have your iPhone repaired or exchanged under warranty by Apple for you and then ship it back to you in France so you can violate Apple's license agreement by hacking your iPhone. And as you now know and your lawyer friend confirmed, hacking your iPhone will void the warranty from that point forward.

A hardcore customer to me doesn't violate Apple's license agreements regardless how many Macs they have purchased. The number of Macs purchased is a choice but that alone or anything else for that matter does not entitle someone to violate a license agreement.

Nov 19, 2007 5:17 AM in response to begmax

Can you confirm that if my friend presents the iphone to an Apple store in NY, he will be able to get the iphone repaired, although it hasn't been activated on the AT&T network? I thought it had to be activated.
What documents must he present appart from the iphone. Is there no way to send the iphone by mail and have it returned same way?

Nov 19, 2007 6:51 AM in response to begmax

I read this information on a few forums but I just checked on apple.com and got the opposite answer

With my serial number (in the US only), here's the message I get :
"Our records indicate this product has not been activated. Learn how to activate your iPhone. Please note that warranty service is not dependent on activating your iPhone. For more information, please contact us. "

From that message, I understand that I do not need activating my iphone to benefit the warranty. As the phone has not been hacked, I guess I can get it repaired then. Please confirm.

Nov 19, 2007 7:20 AM in response to begmax

begmax wrote:
Indeed I couldn't wait for the iphone, which is no crime by itself. I called a friend attorney in NY which told me that the intention of hacking the iphone does not constitute any violation of your warranty. As long as I didn't perform the hacking itself, the warranty should still stand, at least that's what he believes. Therefore my claim seems to be relevant. Once I get a working device, hacking it would indeed be a void, but that is not my situation yet.

He's right and he's wrong. The licensing agreement every iPhone users signs up for states that you are not allowed to rewrite any of the code. Doing so immediately revokes your license. While Apple may still be on the hook to fix the screen, they have the right to remove the iPhone OS before they give it back to you...

Nov 19, 2007 7:37 AM in response to Ansuz82

I would also like to add one thing:

You must have done the hacking yourself. You are using it in France and your freind bought it from Apple for you.

The only way to get the phone working off an authorized network is:

a) Hack it yourself
b) buy it hacked

In option A you lose your license to the software. In option B you bought from a non-authorized dealer so no warranty. Either way your fubar.

Nov 19, 2007 7:37 AM in response to begmax

Allan Sampson, stop joking, you're clearly working for Apple. But the point is, since I have NOT installed any hacked programs can I get it repaired although I have not yet suscribed any AT&T contract. Looks like it but I need a confirmation before sending it to my friend in NY. And appart from the phone, what should I send along?

Half of my iphone screen unresponsive

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