finding printer for a G3 serial port

Is it possible to find a printer to work with a G3 that does not have USB ports? Just serial ports.

Are they still made or is it possible to get something to convert serial to a USB printer?

Thanks,

Mary Lou

iMac G5, Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Posted on Nov 18, 2007 8:00 PM

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Nov 18, 2007 8:14 PM in response to Mary Frost

You posted info only for a G5.

If you are running Mac OS X on your G3, nothing works on the serial ports except there is a third-party driver for ImageWriters. But if you really have a beige G3, you can install selected USB cards for about US$10 to get access to a world of USB printers, provided you are running one of the right versions of Mac OS. You can also get access to Network Printers via Ethernet.

What kinds of printers do you like? Laser Printer, Inkjet, color, black and white, portable, high volume, duplexer, photo-realistic color?

Do you have Broadband Internet access?

Nov 18, 2007 8:28 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

The printer I am looking for would be for my brother's beige G3 running OS 9.2. His older Epson printer has given up and he wants to replace it with a simple printer. He does not print photos, just print matter with an occasional color clip art included.

He does have an ethernet card and has the Internet through a hi-speed cable modem connection. Downstairs in his house is a G4 desktop running OS 10.4.10. It is connected to an Epson 1280 printer.

Are you suggesting that he might be able to use the 1280 through a network setup using the ethernet connection?

This would beat trying to buy a printer for the old computer.

Mary Lou

Nov 18, 2007 8:55 PM in response to Mary Frost

Many of the Apple LaserWriters worked with Applealk/LocalTalk -- they connected to the serial port, but when you turned on the AppleTalk option it boosted the speed up to 240,000 bits/sec and added a protocol on top of that. Everything you need is already inside your Mac, except a printer cable.

LaserWriters are available on the used market for cheap. Most are only black and white. The color ones are likely to be trouble. These are 25 of them, and they fall into four classes. I can post a list and describe their capabilities if you like. Some can also connect to the Ethernet port.

If he does not want to do Ethernet, the next simplest would be a PCI-slot card to add USB capability. Cost for a Keyspan or other good USB card is about US$10. You have to download some extensions to get it all working. Then every USB printer with an OS 9 Driver could be used.

Nov 19, 2007 8:07 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Grant, years ago when I was using the same G3, I bought the USB card. It cost me a great deal more than the $10 you mention. It finally gave out and I bought a newer Mac.

Does the card you mention, include the 4 ports which go through the slot on the back of the computer?

If so, I can probably install it for him. Where would I go to get the card as reasonably as you suggest?
Where would I find the download for the system to run the card? I probably have that download somewhere but it may not be current.

Thanks for your help.

Mary Lou

Nov 19, 2007 9:17 AM in response to Mary Frost

This one is two ports out the back. It is thought that there may not be enough power available to support all four.

a search turns up this card new for US$15:

http://www.yourmacstore.com/shop/shopexd.asp?id=627

These, an eclectic collection, some for cheaper:

amazon search for USB PCI Mac

eBay search for USB (PCI, card, adapter, adaptec, keyspan, macally) -(AC,cam,iMic,camera,keyboard,serial, WiFi,wireless, airport,reader)

Nov 19, 2007 3:12 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Grant, thanks for your help. I've held on to the reference you sent so I can refer to it when I install the USB ports.

We have the original CD for OS 9.1. Will it be difficult to locate the specific extensions that were mentioned in the reference? e.g.

HID Library 1.4.6
Serial ShimLib 1.4.6
USB Device Extension 1.4.6
USB Mass Storage Support 2.0.9
USB Software Locator 1.4.6
USB Support 1.4.6

Mary Lou

Nov 19, 2007 5:21 PM in response to Mary Frost

The dictionary says a tome is a large book, or one of a series of Volumes.

The OS 9 installer items are packed into Tomes, which are files containing many items to be selectively used for an installation.

Tome Viewer lets you see inside those big files, select any one or several of possibly dozens of items, and unpack it into a single file by itself so that you can use the Finder to manipulate it.

Nov 19, 2007 7:21 PM in response to Mary Frost

Hi Mary,

Used StyleWriters appear quite frequently in thrift stores, I use a SW 1200 for all of my B&W work almost exclusively. Cartridges can be found quite cheaply, as little as $3 on eBay. I never found a 1200 I didn't like, at one time I had 5 of the little beasties. Never used a color SW.

I use a 4-external, 1-internal USB card and have never had any power problems. I don't think I have ever had 4 USB devices running at the same time however. My card was over $10 but less than $20 at Frys as I recall. I made sure it had a NEC chip set on it before buying. Some of the early Belkin USB cards were troublesome, the NEC thing avoided any problems.

Having a USB card will be a plus no matter what the decision is on the printer. USB flash drives are the medium of choice for carrying data around nowadays. Maybe your brother could use one to carry files down to the G4 when he needed heavier printer support. One of the benefits of the ole G3"s is that they can provide so many options.


Good luck!
Don Rieg

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