Frontier AlphaTrack and Novation ReMOTE both unusable with Logic Express 8

After reading all the hype about Logic 8 I went and picked up a copy of Express to see how easy it was to learn -- and indeed, it's MUCH easier than 7 and the interface is absolutely beautiful. It's exactly the way I would have designed it, both in layout and aesthetics.

However, I'm a bit disappointed that I can't use my brand-new Novation ReMote 25SL with Logic. During the first launch, the Automap server seemed to launch and quit in an endless loop until I force quit it. Logic doesn't seem to properly recognize it either as a controller or as a MIDI keyboard.

Likewise, my Frontier Alphatrack unit, which is supposed to be supported by Logic 8, doesn't really do anything -- it displays a few random parameters, nothing responds properly.

I've been using Mackie Tracktion 3 and Reason 4 with these controllers quite successfully. I'm a little frustrated as this means I can't really get started to use Logic without a lot of mousing, and my carpal tunnel tends to protest when I do that.

One fix I read online involved hacking files in Logic 8 to remove the AlphaTrack support in order to get the Novation keyboard to work -- but I'm not going that far!

Frontier, for their part, say they have provided all the data to Apple to allow them to implement support -- nearly a year ago actually -- but their feeling is that it got lost in the race to release Leopard and Logic 8. I'm not sure about Novation but they might need to update their software and firmware for Leopard / Logic.

Is anyone else having the same experience? Any success / frustration / news you'd care to share?

cheers and thanks in advance --

MacBook Pro Core Duo 17", Mac OS X (10.5.1), 2.16GHz Core Duo, 2GB RAM

Posted on Nov 30, 2007 10:03 PM

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Dec 2, 2007 3:49 PM in response to AJ Kandy

Follow-up research:

Apparently there is a driver conflict between the AlphaTrack and the ReMOTE. So far I have got the ReMOTE working - sort of - in Logic using the following method which was published at Novation's Answerbase:

1. disconnect the alphatrack.
2. launch Logic and then turn on the ReMOTE SL.
3. Go into the Environment window, and add a Monitor Object. Connect it to the Remote SL's ports 2 and 3.

So far, this seems to at least get MIDI note input into Logic, but the Automap function seems a bit sketchy so far. This will depend on Novation updating Automap and the SL's firmware for Logic 8.

As noted previously, there doesn't seem to be any AlphaTrack support in Logic 8 yet and it's up to Apple to make it work. They do support their TranzPort product, so with luck there'll be support in the next update.

I'd really love to use BOTH control surfaces with Logic simultaneously -- the AlphaTrack with the Mixer and plugins, the ReMOTE with Software Instruments. I suppose it might take some interesting mapping but this doesn't seem like that strange a setup -- there are plenty of "mixer surfaces" like the M-Audio one, and the Novation Automap stuff is quite popular....

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Frontier AlphaTrack and Novation ReMOTE both unusable with Logic Express 8

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