dumb question: so, WHY the odd headphone jack?

You're NOT LIMITED to the headphones you can use.

Just get the Shure Music Phone Adapter

http://www.shure.com/PersonalAudio/Products/Accessories/CasesAdapters/uspa_MPA_phoneadapter

I get to use my Shure E2c's with my iPhone.

And to those you act like Apple is forcing you to buy all this stuff. Since when did you lose your right to spend your money the way you want? meaning who "Forced" you to buy a iphone?

For those of you who have the Shur Headphone Adaptor, I'm wondering how you find it...am thinking of getting one but doesn't the mic end up really low down on your body - so you have to hold it up to your mouth (and have lots of cables) when you get a call? Curious...Thanks so much for your insights...

jenLondon,

With the Shure adaptor the microphone will end up lower on your body so you'll have to pick it up to speak into it.

It comes with a clip so you can clip the microphone to your clothes at an appropriate level for speaking, but because the microphone is built into the headphone jack you'll end up with the bulk of the headphone plug and microphone/jack clipped to your shirt.

It's even more messy if your using Shure headphones with the wire coming out of the jack at a right angle.

I mostly use mine at the gym, so it's no big deal. But it is a bit less elegant than the stock Apple headphones and microphone.

Matt

thats not the point. the point is at 400 dollars it should be compatible with most headphones or at least come with some sort of adapter. at a price that high its rediculous to have to go out and buy something needed to use accesories which are common to every other mp3 player or phone

The company making money off the recessed iPhone headphone jack isn't Apple, it's V-Moda. Their Duo earbuds with inline mic are the best sounding on the market, and their made for the iPhone so the jack fits perfectly. No, I don't work for them but I did buy two sets for myself and gave four sets for Christmas.

every one is jumping to the "o apple wanted to make more money" yet they didnt make an adapter them selves for it, wouldnt that be the one thing you would not license out to let people make or at least to be sold saying it is for iphones if you wanted to make money?

ya the small hole is a pain but if you look at your phone and imagine it with a larger hole it wouldn't work, it is a little weird that the ipods have the jack up to the edge and the iphone doesnt but then again im not an electrical engineer and seeing as that apple has made all their ipods to accept any other head set i think there has to be a good reason.


about the stock earbuds being that bad, im not a huge fans of ear buds and they dont fit well in my ears no matter the brand but first off if you are commuting and want a head set to listen to music i for 2-3 hours a day i would expect you would go buy some top dollar head phones more than likely with noise cancelers so that extra 2 bucks for the little adapter is a drop in the bucket.

-matt

MobileDev wrote:
The answer is simple and well known... it was to keep the design slim.

From two interviews with Apple marketing VP Greg Joswiak:

+"The only way to accommodate the full variety of headphones would be to make the \[iphone\] thicker, or change its contours. And you know we don't like to do things like that."+

and

+“The jack is recessed in order to maintain the integrity of that design,”+ That is, "if they had wanted the jack to not be recessed, the phone would have had to be thicker at that point, and they weren’t willing to compromise the shape — specifically the thinness — of the design."

I don't buy it for a millisecond!

Apple could have easily mounted the jack flush to the case.
It's their way if making sure (until the adapters came along) of buying only Apply earbuds.

Me, I modded a set of earbuds & like better than the Apple buds, done.

B_N wrote:
I don't buy it for a millisecond!

Apple could have easily mounted the jack flush to the case.
It's their way if making sure (until the adapters came along) of buying only Apply earbuds.

Apple earbuds are FREE, and the adapters were available day one (I got one on Jun 29). Your argument doesn't hold water.

Yes I've heard of people doing that. Is it risky to do it? Or easy?

Obviously it will depend on the shape and material used for the jack but in general what did you think of it?

Thanks Matthew. Decided against it as it just sounds like way too much cord for me. 🙂

I would never complain or criticize my Iphone for I love it for what it is. My ears look and feel normal to me but for the life of me, I cannot keep those little ear buds in my ears unless I sit very still. I was not able to use the ear buds with my Ipod either so bought a pair that fits around the top of my ears. With those, I can jog and still keep them in.

For all of you that have trouble keeping the Apple Earphones in your ear.

Have you seen these before?

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/05/whoomp-earbud-enhancers-keep-headphones-in-pl ace/

oooo thank you,

i like the fit of the in-ear buds i bought that were 3rd part but the sound quality wasnt to great, those should solve my problem... now just have to justify spending 20 bucks on that when i dont listen to music via head set a lot
-matt

Just to play Devil's advocate, to everyone saying the earbuds provided with the iphone are free, consider this: If you were to lose/damage you earbuds and you walked into an Apple store and demanded another free pair of earbuds, would they give them to you?


You pay for everything that comes with the iphone. Even the beautiful but incredibly wasteful packaging.

Fotofinish wrote:
Just to play Devil's advocate, to everyone saying the earbuds provided with the iphone are free, consider this: If you were to lose/damage you earbuds and you walked into an Apple store and demanded another free pair of earbuds, would they give them to you?

If they were defective they would replace them free of charge