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Smart Playlists On Touch Don't Match iTunes

3231 Views 12 Replies Latest reply: Feb 4, 2008 12:14 PM by daveproper RSS
Reuben Feffer Level 2 Level 2 (195 points)
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Dec 20, 2007 8:00 AM

I have a weird problem. Some of the Smart Playlists on my iPod Touch don't match up with their iTunes equivalent. For example, I have a Smart Playlist in iTunes called Top 40 Electronic. The version on my iPod Touch is almost IDENTICAL to the original in iTunes except for 2 songs. The first 2 songs, in positions 1 and 2 are NOT showing up on the iPod Touch. The 2 songs have synced to my iPod Touch and can be found in the Songs menu, but they're missing from the top of that particular Smart Playlist.

To me, this seems completely illogical, since the whole point of syncing is to ensure playlists are identical in both iTunes and on the iPod. Any ideas?
17" iMac 2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, Mac OS X (10.5.1)
  • A A P L Level 7 Level 7 (21,730 points)
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    Dec 20, 2007 8:55 AM (in response to Reuben Feffer)
    There are some issues with certain types of playlists on the Touch.
    From what I gather, an update will be the most likely way we'll see them fixed.

     MBP Core2Duo  Mac Pro  iPod Touch  2G Shuffle, U2 iPods, Mac OS X (10.5),  XSAN 
  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (73,410 points)
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    Dec 20, 2007 12:47 PM (in response to Reuben Feffer)
    I have a Smart Playlist in iTunes called Top 40 Electronic

    What is the criteria of this smart playlist?

    Since it;s a smart playlist, ifsomething changes on a song that matches the criteria, the list on the iPod could be different than iTunes.
    For example, if you have Most recently played transferred to the iPod and play a song not on it, the iPod playlist will update but it won't update in iTunes till you sync.
    iMac G5 (Rev B) ALS - 1 GB RAM, Mac OS X (10.4.11), Silver Mini, Blue Mini
  • m8an Level 2 Level 2 (260 points)
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    Dec 20, 2007 3:02 PM (in response to Reuben Feffer)
    I experienced that this problem occurs if you have the "limit to x selected by y" criteria checked for a smart playlist.

    just uncheck it and your playlist should work on the touch. the only downside is that your playlist will not be limited to x songs.
    if, for example, you have a smart playlists that shows your top 25 songs it would contain the criteria "limit to 25 items selected by playcount". what you do is you uncheck this criteria und then sort your playlist by playcount (by just clicking on playcount in the top row of your playlist). this way the playlist will be transferred to your ipod sorted by playcount. so the only downside is now that it's not your top 25 but just all your songs sorted by playcounts. but the first 25 songs of that playlist are still your top 25
  • Fofer Level 1 Level 1 (115 points)
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    Jan 1, 2008 10:50 PM (in response to Reuben Feffer)
    I'd hardly call that a "workaround." Turning off live updating? That disables the primary utility of the smart playlist. Turning off live updating makes a "Recently Played" playlist inoperable. That's not a "workaround." That's suggesting we avoid the feature entirely. Thanks, but no thanks.

    I want a Smart Playlist that shows me the 15 most recently played songs, on iTunes and my iPod Touch. (Syncing should merge the results.) I hear a song and want to review to see who the artist was a few minutes later. Is that too much to ask?

    This used to work (on my 3G iPod) way back when. It broke with some iTunes/Firmware update, and it ***** that it's been broken this long.
  • Hedron Calculating status...
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    Jan 1, 2008 11:59 PM (in response to Fofer)
    yeah it is annoying. You can still manually update your smart lists before sync, but it is a heinous bug. I would guess this to be something they would fix quickly.
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  • jesgal66 Calculating status...
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    Feb 1, 2008 1:11 PM (in response to Reuben Feffer)
    I just ran into this bug on my Ipod Classic when creating playlists for my operas. The work around I can up with was to create only 2 playlists at a time, eject the ipod, then reconnect and go through the process again. It's time consuming, but hopefully Apple will have a fix for this bug soon. Good Luck!
    pc, Windows XP Pro
  • daveproper Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 4, 2008 12:14 PM (in response to Reuben Feffer)
    I was having this exact problem and I also noticed that unchecking the "live updating" box fixed it.

    So as a workaround I kept the playlist the way I wanted it, with live updating and all. To make this appear on my iPod, I created a new smartplaylist that had as its criteria: "is on playlist: originalsmartplaylist"

    This one syncs up just fine and has the same exact order and contents of the other one that doesn't work...

    I hope that helps!
    Macbook, Mac OS X (10.4.10), also have a fw800 g4


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