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superdrive needs replacing

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davidcur Calculating status...
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Dec 27, 2007 5:49 AM
Hi,

I have a Powermac G4 MDD dual 867 that came with a superdrive.It is starting to act funny.It will play cd's but not dvd's.What is the best route for replacing.I burn cd's and dvd's.Is it better to go with another combo burner or is there an advantage to a seperate cd burner for speed. It seems like all the new combo drives are really fast.I am currently running Tiger 10.4.10 but plan to upgrade to 10.5 when some of the issues get worked out.What are some of the issues I should be thinging about? I plan on keeping this computer for a long time as it is great. Thank You.
G4 MDD Dual 867, Mac OS X (10.4.10)
  • japamac Level 7 Level 7 (24,390 points)
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    Dec 27, 2007 6:17 AM (in response to davidcur)
    Hi-

    For general usage, there is no real benefit to be had by using other than combo burners.
    As you have seen, DVD-R speeds of 16x, 18x, and 20x are common place now. Because of this, media has also changed to accomodate the faster burning capabilities.
    This is a main issue to be considered, because many problems are typically media related. The newest media has difficulty on older burners, so the first advantage of a new burner is to gain reliable compatibility with new, faster rated media.
    Installing a new 18x drive, though, doesn't necessarily mean that you will be able to burn that fast. In your machine, good, reliable burns, will typically max out at 10x, with 12x being possible, 8x the most capable and reliable. This is simply due to the architecture of the older machine.
    Does this mean that you should only get an 8x capable burner? No. One, there are few slower models available, and the media compatibility issue will be a problem.

    In choosing a model, your most pressing concern is compatibility with your software. With Tiger, 10.4.6 and beyond, all the Pioneer models have native support. In Leopard, support has been broadened, as well.
    Burners from Pioneer, LG, Samsung, Sony, among others, are the most commonly referenced burners. For reliability, compatibility, and proven performance, I can easily recommend the Pioneer DVR-112.
    If you have interest in what others are using, in machines similar to yours, as well as user reports, check the Xlr8yourMac Drive Compatibility Database.
    G4AGP(450)Sawtooth, 2ghz PowerLogix, 2gbRAM, Raptor+SATA+ATA, ATI Radeon 9800, Mac OS X (10.5.1), ATI Silencer, DVR-109, 23"ACD, Ratoc USB2.0, QCam Ultra, NikonCoolscan, 520W PSU
  • WWJD Level 6 Level 6 (15,815 points)
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    Dec 29, 2007 12:27 PM (in response to davidcur)
    Your machine can hold two optical drives. Leave the current drive in the top bay and add the new one below. The old drive can still be used for CD's, etc..

    Regards,
    MDD Dual 1GHz 2GB RAM / QS 867MHz 1.5GB RAM, Mac OS X (10.5.1), 2930 SCSI / 16x DVR-110D / Yamaha 01X / 1GB Shuffle x 2 / 4GB Nano :o)
  • cgeiber Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 30, 2007 9:37 AM (in response to WWJD)
    One thing to consider regarding leaving the old drive in...
    I am using the a G4 with Dual 867 as well. I originally had a combo drive that I left in along with a new Super Drive I added. After some time all sorts of bizarre things began to happen kernel panics, files not copying correctly etc. This was all with the good drive. After a lot of searching It was recommended that I disconnect the combo drive and the problems were solved. If your original drive is acting up disconnect it to avoid similar frustrations. See link for the old posts http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=973597&tstart=0
    Good luck
    PowerPC G4 dual 867, Mac OS X (10.4.8)
  • Douggo Level 4 Level 4 (2,730 points)
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    Dec 30, 2007 1:29 PM (in response to cgeiber)
    That can possibly happen when you leave the Combo Drive in the primary slot and put a Superdrive in the secondary slot - software expects the Superdrive to be in the main slot (top bay on the end of the ATA cable) and will choke when it has a Superdrive but it's not where it expects it.

    -Douggo
    MacBook 2GHz C2D; G4 MDD Dual 867: 1.25GB RAM; 3 HDD's, Mac OS X (10.5), Pioneer 111D; Radeon 9800Pro (flashed); 20" Cinema Display; 30GB iPod Photo
  • WWJD Level 6 Level 6 (15,815 points)
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    Dec 30, 2007 1:36 PM (in response to cgeiber)
    Whether it matters or not, my machine has two Superdrives...

    Regards,
    MDD Dual 1GHz 2GB RAM / QS 867MHz 1.5GB RAM, Mac OS X (10.5.1), 2930 SCSI / 16x DVR-110D / Yamaha 01X / 1GB Shuffle x 2 / 4GB Nano :o)
  • Douggo Level 4 Level 4 (2,730 points)
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    Dec 30, 2007 1:43 PM (in response to WWJD)
    Well, I could drop the -107D I have back in along with the -111D in there now and be in the same enviable position!
    There was a discussion about an issue similar to this in the way-back and moving the Superdrive to the master position seemed to solve the issue IIRC..

    -Douggo
    MacBook 2GHz C2D; G4 MDD Dual 867: 1.25GB RAM; 3 HDD's, Mac OS X (10.5), Pioneer 111D; Radeon 9800Pro (flashed); 20" Cinema Display; 30GB iPod Photo
  • cgeiber Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 2, 2008 7:09 PM (in response to Douggo)
    In my case I had swapped the two drives when I bought my super drive so the good drive (super drive)was in the primary position and the combo was in the bottom bay. Still caused problems though. Since I disconnected it all is back to normal.

    Carl
    PowerPC G4 dual 867, Mac OS X (10.4.8)

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