12 Replies Latest reply: Feb 12, 2008 7:00 PM by EmGal
EmGal Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
I love the style and ideas behind mac mail but have far too many people that only know me on my hotmail account to convert to another email account.

Does anyone know how I can synchronize mail for leopard with my hotmail live account?

I looked online and a couple of plug-ins were suggested - I tried them but no success - it came up with a message saying I needed to download Windows live - the advanced version of hotmail which I already have!!

Can you suggest a way for hotmail to work with mac mail leopard or suggest how I can make an easy transition to another email account supported by the application?

Thanks

Macbook 2.2, Mac OS X (10.5.1), Mail version 3.1
  • 1. Re: Hotmail to mac mail
    Pascal Bouvier Level 4 Level 4 (2,880 points)
    you may want to read this link: http://www.leoparduser.com/leopard-mail-hotmail

    hope this helps
  • 2. Re: Hotmail to mac mail
    imac007 Level 3 Level 3 (860 points)
    Hotmail is not compatible with Leopard.
    I even had a plug-in installed that allowed hotmail access from Mail in Tiger and the install deleted it.
    It didn't matter anyway since with the new hotmail setup the plug-in no longer worked.
    Hotmail uses an http format rather than the standard formats POP, IMAP and Enterprise.
    Try gmail, they support both POP and IMAP.
  • 3. Re: Hotmail to mac mail
    Pascal Bouvier Level 4 Level 4 (2,880 points)
    you may also want to read the link I referred in my previous post re. hotmail and Leopard Mail

    hope this helps
  • 4. Re: Hotmail to mac mail
    Bone Doctor Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)
    The plug-in httpmail is now Leopard-compatible, and is available from the developer's web site. I use it with mail.app in OS X 10.5.1 to access my Windows Live account. Works like a charm.

    http://www.automagic-software.com/httpmail/httpmailleopard1.51.dmg.gz
  • 5. Re: Hotmail to mac mail
    Lynn Q Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hi there,

    Don't know if this will help but hope it does. First, I use a Windows Live Mail Account (MSN) and it's classified as a Hotmail Plus. I pay $30-ish per year to keep it but it gives 10 GB storage. If you sign in on this account on the web you have options. The key things are that you can add other accounts from which to send and receive your e-mail using Hotmail/MSN. If I want to send a reply from a sender I can specify which ID to use, i.e., a MAC account, MSN, GMAil, whatever your choices are. However, the KEY thing is that you can now forward all incoming mail arriving at your Hotmail/MSN account to a different account, i.e., MAC. I prefer to use my Mac account and this is what I have set up. Similarly if you have a paid MAC account you could forward all your Mac mail to Hotmail/MSN.

    Hope this helps. Let me know if you need more info.

    Lynn
  • 6. Re: Hotmail to mac mail
    KellyPE Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Lynn,
    I also have Windows Live Mail (Hotmail Plus). I have selected options, but am unable to access any functionality that will allow me to forward e-mails to another account. Is there something I am missing?

    Kelly
  • 7. Re: Hotmail to mac mail
    Lynn Q Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hi there, Kelly!

    This doesn't work in the Windows Live Mail program. You actually have to sign in on the webmail for your Hotmail account at either www.msn.com or www.hotmail.com. The Windows Live Hotmail will load up and when you have your mail window open (inbox, sent items, etc.) open you will see an Options button at the top right hand corner of the screen beside the Help question mark. Click on Options and then choose the bottom item "More Options".

    Now you have choices. Under the "Manage Your Account" you can choose four things, one of which is to forward the mail automatically to another account. You can also add other accounts in your Hotmail/MSN account to select from to reply to messages. If you have a GMail account you can enter it here. In GMail you can also automatically forward messages to Hotmail/MSN or MAC. Anyway, you should get the idea but you have to authorise every account you add and validate it with an e-mail request from your Hotmail/MSN account. This authority I believe also applies to the automatic forwarding portion, i.e., it has to be validated before it can be turned on.

    This should now sort out your issues. The key thing is that the webmail account is what controls the activity, not the Windows Live Mail program itself.

    Have fun and if you need more information then feel free to ask! Glad to help!

    Lynn
  • 8. Re: Hotmail to mac mail
    KellyPE Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Lynn,
    Thanks - blind as a bat after trying to get this working for the last 24 hours.

    Kelly
  • 9. Re: Hotmail to mac mail
    Bone Doctor Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)
    Lynn Q wrote:

    This doesn't work in the Windows Live Mail program. You actually have to sign in on the webmail for your Hotmail account at either www.msn.com or www.hotmail.com.


    While forwarding your mail from Windows Live to another account that is natively compatible with Apple Mail (e.g. IMAP, POP3, etc.) is one solution to the problem, it is only a partial solution. When the forwarded messages are deleted within Apple Mail, they still exist on the Windows Live server. So the next time you log on to Windows Live, you see all of your previously deleted mail. And you have to delete it all. Again. Nor are the forward messages synced between Windows Live and Apple Mail: If a forwarded message is read, it does not become marked as read on Windows Live.

    Try the httpmail plug-in. I swear it works. It is simple to set up, too -- I got it working in about 5-10 minutes. It is definitely compatible with Leopard, because that's what I use it with, and it offers major advantages over mail forwarding. All of my folders from Windows Live automatically show up in the Apple Mail sidebar, and I am able to freely move messages in and out of these folders. These changes are reflected in Windows Live. Messages I read in Apple Mail are marked as read in Windows Live, and vice-versa. Deleted messages are deleted in both applications, so I only have to do it once.

    The one caveat is that you have to upgrade your free account to a Windows Live Plus account, which costs about US$30 per year.

    Anyway, for those who might be interested, here is the download link:

    http://www.automagic-software.com/httpmail/httpmailleopard1.51.dmg.gz

    I am not affiliated with the author of this plug-in in any way. I just think the software offers a simple and excellent solution to a common problem. Sure works for me.
  • 10. Re: Hotmail to mac mail
    EmGal Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hi guys - thanks for all the support.
    Unfortunately neither the httpmail or macfreepops work for me.

    Httpmail I installed, set up then created a new account, following the instructions and got a message saying that mac mail is only compatible with Windows Live Hotmail (which I thought wasnt an issue in this version.)

    Then the macfreepops, the link offered was very descriptive and easy to follow but unfortunately it didn't work for me - I set it up again and got the message:

    "There may be a problem with the mail server or network. Check the settings for account “Hotmail” or try again.

    The server error encountered was: The connection to the server “127.0.0.1” on port 2000 timed out."

    They were both actually the plugins Id tried but I tried them again using your links.

    Then Lynn, the advice about forwarding mail to my .mac account - I could add my .mac email in the option to send from that address using hotmail which was fine. However when it came to forwarding my hotmail emails to my .mac inbox - I got the following error message:

    "You're only able to forward mail to a custom domain or an e-mail address that ends in hotmail.com, msn.com, or live.com. Please try again."

    So it looks like its not possible for me to forward mail to the macmail account.

    I guess that leaves the question - does anyone know how to make an easy transition to a supported account like gmail or something?

    Thanks
  • 11. Re: Hotmail to mac mail
    EmGal Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I ended up just emailing all my friends manually, then changing to gmail. Its a shame mac mail doesnt support hotmail accounts seeing as theyre so common..!

    Ems :)*
  • 12. Re: Hotmail to mac mail
    EmGal Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    There seemed no real solution - mail just doesnt accept hotmail accounts and theres no easy way to inform your contacts youre changing emails.

    I just had to send mass emails out with the new s and my new gmail address which I now use with the app.